Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
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Reznor
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That Indian Guy
Nox Noctis
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Lucyfer
Stebung
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So lemme summarize........the town have three options.....
The pro and cons I see for each is....
Cons: Possibility of success is very low since we know too little right now and people are not likely to tell the truth and this means massive amount of time needs to put into it.
If enough people agrees to put in the effort this might work
Cons: We might get one of the townies if votes are made too rashly and not enough thoughts are put into it. It's a gamble with 1/12 chance if we know too little.
Cons: Some of the townies might very likely get killed at night. Since no one would know much about each other and it would be very hard for the healer to protect anyone.
I personally prefer option 2......although it might look like a gamble but at least it moves everyone into night phase and forward into the game. Sure we might lynch a townie but even for option 1 there is a possibility we lynch a townie if investigation fails. So I say save the time and go with gut instincts.
Therefore I vote lynch Hods_Sorrow based on what he's doing so far.
1. He's not defending himself really well when he's getting voted.
2. He voted no lynch for no particular reason at all.....It's not like no one is obviously suspicious right now....at least explain why you think no lynch would benefit the town.
3. He's wasting time talking about shit from last game....
4. If he's on the town side his logic would not help the town much as we saw from last round....if he's on the mafia's side I dunno if mafia would like his logic either.
I will not change my vote unless you give me some convincing reason to your actions so far OR a better strategy in finding the mafia.
1. Do an all out investigation on day 1 to find the mafia no matter how long it takes.
2. Vote lynch someone and hope for the best that it's mafia based on the posts we already have.
3. All vote no lynch and go to the night phase right away.
The pro and cons I see for each is....
Pros: Duh.....we get the mafia and possible affiliates on day one.1. Do an all out investigation on day 1 to find the mafia no matter how long it takes.
Cons: Possibility of success is very low since we know too little right now and people are not likely to tell the truth and this means massive amount of time needs to put into it.
If enough people agrees to put in the effort this might work
Pros: We might get the mafia and possible affiliates.......and it's quicker than the full out investigation. Moves into night phase quicker and night actions can be cast.2. Vote lynch someone and hope for the best that it's mafia based on the posts we already have.
Cons: We might get one of the townies if votes are made too rashly and not enough thoughts are put into it. It's a gamble with 1/12 chance if we know too little.
Pros: Moves into night phase immediately and on day two there will be more clues as to who is the bad guy and who is not. Night actions can be cast.3. All vote no lynch and go to the night phase right away.
Cons: Some of the townies might very likely get killed at night. Since no one would know much about each other and it would be very hard for the healer to protect anyone.
I personally prefer option 2......although it might look like a gamble but at least it moves everyone into night phase and forward into the game. Sure we might lynch a townie but even for option 1 there is a possibility we lynch a townie if investigation fails. So I say save the time and go with gut instincts.
Therefore I vote lynch Hods_Sorrow based on what he's doing so far.
1. He's not defending himself really well when he's getting voted.
2. He voted no lynch for no particular reason at all.....It's not like no one is obviously suspicious right now....at least explain why you think no lynch would benefit the town.
3. He's wasting time talking about shit from last game....
4. If he's on the town side his logic would not help the town much as we saw from last round....if he's on the mafia's side I dunno if mafia would like his logic either.
I will not change my vote unless you give me some convincing reason to your actions so far OR a better strategy in finding the mafia.
Stebung- Captain GrumpyPants
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Fine I vote Lynch Stebung then since you say we should vote for people who wont matter and all he usually does is irritate people.
Last edited by Hods_sorrow on Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:51 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : the reason i went no lynch is because i never believe the game starts till day 2)
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Hods_sorrow wrote:Fine I vote Lynch Stebung then since you say we should vote for people who wont matter and all he usually does is irritate people.
Oh really? I remember someone saying this....
Hods_sorrow wrote:As for voting i have never cast a revenge vote and wont start now. I vote No Lynch
What you just did was pretty much revenge vote dude...So you decided to start on revenge voting?...All I was doing was trying to line out the situation so far for the town and let people pick the best options. It's not targeted at anyone in particular. And I was just expressing my opinion on my lynch cos I don't lynch people for no reason like what you just did. I don't see how that irritates people....I can't have an opinion? Seriously? Maybe it irritates you cos you are getting lynched which is understandable but instead can you try to explain why you are innocent instead of revenge voting. Cos that sorta makes you look more suspicious.......
Stebung- Captain GrumpyPants
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if you look at the time stamps our posts happened at the same time so it could be revenge for either one of us
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Hods_sorrow wrote:if you look at the time stamps our posts happened at the same time so it could be revenge for either one of us
I don't get what you are trying to say here....... How am I revenge voting you? I'm voting you cos you are acting suspicious. Like what you are doing now.......
Stebung- Captain GrumpyPants
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@ Stebung: It's not 1/12 chance. There is at least 2 mafia and that makes it 1/6 chance. That's like rolling a dice. If there's a Serial Killer out there, that's a 1/4 chance of getting someone who is anti-town.
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Actually, that would be wrong as well LCP, since the game only has 11 people in it. It would mean:xXLCP Dragon SlayerXx wrote:@ Stebung: It's not 1/12 chance. There is at least 2 mafia and that makes it 1/6 chance. That's like rolling a dice. If there's a Serial Killer out there, that's a 1/4 chance of getting someone who is anti-town.
With 2 Mafia: 2/11 = 18.18%
With 2 Mafia & Serial Killer = 3/11 = 27.27%
So the odds are slightly better than what you said, but i think we got the jist of what you were trying to correct Stebung on
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i dnt consider those odds good at all @.@
Lucyfer- Treasure hunter
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I thought the game had 13 people.
If so then it's 1 in 10 chance of getting a single mafia because if you know that you yourself are innocent then it doesn't factor into the chances, 1 in 5 if there are 2 mafia, etc etc.
If so then it's 1 in 10 chance of getting a single mafia because if you know that you yourself are innocent then it doesn't factor into the chances, 1 in 5 if there are 2 mafia, etc etc.
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If you go into the game trying to protect all the towns people, you end up protecting none.Lucyfer wrote:i dnt consider those odds good at all @.@
Say we lynch someone today:
- Best case scenario, we get a Mafia or a Serial Killer.
- Worst case scenario, we get a townie, but we get information as to their character after their death (who they were/what role they had etc) so we can start forming theories to base the game set up on. Plus, it provides 1 less character for the Mafia to try and hide behind, by claiming it.
Plus us its not like we are going for a completely random lynch, we (well i say we, but i guess i shouldnt speak in terms of all of us) I think people have to think about the game further than just Day 1 or just this Day. Think about how we can reach our end goal (Kill all the mafia/SK etc) and whats the best way to do it. If we go with a No Lynch, we arent really moving forward towards that goal, as lynching is really our only way of making kills in the game. Note: there are circumstances were i think a No Lynch is optimal play for town side, but that is a story for another day kids
Basically, you got be prepared to risk a few lives in battle to win the war, that is basically the concept of the uninformed townie set up. We have to take a few more risks, because we know less about each other.
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right, thats alot of posts for just a day+night
@Reznor: Im not sure what you want me to say lol, theres not alot i can say/do on day1 to "prove my innocence" as such and i think the "oh, you shouldn't lynch me cuz im a useless townie but you'll regret it if you lynch me" speech is kinda cliche'ed, but you all should keep me around for the lolz who knows, I just might be a useful townie after all.
and Hods, ppl are lynching you becuz you kinda half attempted to do an investigation without any results to show for so... saying that your trying to get the game moving is a convinient excuse, but is there something else to it?
@Reznor: Im not sure what you want me to say lol, theres not alot i can say/do on day1 to "prove my innocence" as such and i think the "oh, you shouldn't lynch me cuz im a useless townie but you'll regret it if you lynch me" speech is kinda cliche'ed, but you all should keep me around for the lolz who knows, I just might be a useful townie after all.
and Hods, ppl are lynching you becuz you kinda half attempted to do an investigation without any results to show for so... saying that your trying to get the game moving is a convinient excuse, but is there something else to it?
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This is true, thanks for the correction I keep forgetting to include myself in calculations like this.xXLCP Dragon SlayerXx wrote:I thought the game had 13 people.
If so then it's 1 in 10 chance of getting a single mafia because if you know that you yourself are innocent then it doesn't factor into the chances, 1 in 5 if there are 2 mafia, etc etc.
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You seem to be playing a very analytical and logical game Indian Guy, you too Dragonslayer...
Reznor- Castiels Angel
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As you have seen from previous games, stupidity doesn't win Mafia games.
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we really should be anlysising what people are saying rather than our chances of randomly picking the mafia...
Lucyfer- Treasure hunter
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And what do you rate the chances of the bad guys dropping a tell of them being a bad guy is on Day 1? i would have them a lot lower than what the chances of randomly picking one at the moment, wouldnt you?Lucyfer wrote:we really should be anlysising what people are saying rather than our chances of randomly picking the mafia...
Reznor- Castiels Angel
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bad guys are usually very defensive
steven proved that last round
i'm just saying that there is always clues
basically id like hear reasoning b4 any lynch.... besides the person is a liability even if hes in the town's side and we might as well because theres a 1/5 chance he is mafia even tho wat he has been saying hasnt shown any indication....
@.@
steven proved that last round
i'm just saying that there is always clues
basically id like hear reasoning b4 any lynch.... besides the person is a liability even if hes in the town's side and we might as well because theres a 1/5 chance he is mafia even tho wat he has been saying hasnt shown any indication....
@.@
Lucyfer- Treasure hunter
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Lucyfer wrote:bad guys are usually very defensive
steven proved that last round
i'm just saying that there is always clues
basically id like hear reasoning b4 any lynch.... besides the person is a liability even if hes in the town's side and we might as well because theres a 1/5 chance he is mafia even tho wat he has been saying hasnt shown any indication....
@.@
That's just how I play and it proved to not work really well since the mafia lost last round. Everyone has their own playing style you can't put my act over all of mafia.
I don't know what you mean by clues.....we are just posting here......everything a person say could be lies and you cannot tell. People can claim to be what they wanna be but without a night phase no one can justfy what they said.
We all had our reasons to lynch hods.....read the posts.....And does his action not seem a bit suspicious to you? TIG and LCP voted for him he didn't say anything and went for no lynch but when I voted him he revenge voted me, when he said he NEVER revenge votes. It's either he's targetting me for no particular reason or he's full of shit.
Is there a particular reason that you are protecting him? How do you know he's a townie FOR SURE from what we have now? Cos I can't see it.
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Why should i not be lynched?.. I may not be the brightest spark of the lot, but i do try and pull my weight in anyway. Im not saying favour me and ditch the others, that would not make any sense since we do have more experience players in this game and players that have better gut instincts than me lol
You do know that Stebung being defensive was just a play right? It was stupid on the towns behalf (which included me *facepalms*) to not see through that and can we stop bringing out the statistical anaylsis XD i don't do stats lol
Lucyfer, if we're talking about analysising and what not, you've definitly changed ur game play, last game all you did was make silly faces all the time...@_@ <_< T_T
@hods trying-to-be-TIG FAIL. Since you proclaim your innoncent, why don't u explain to us why not to vote for you? :\
You do know that Stebung being defensive was just a play right? It was stupid on the towns behalf (which included me *facepalms*) to not see through that and can we stop bringing out the statistical anaylsis XD i don't do stats lol
Lucyfer, if we're talking about analysising and what not, you've definitly changed ur game play, last game all you did was make silly faces all the time...@_@ <_< T_T
@hods trying-to-be-TIG FAIL. Since you proclaim your innoncent, why don't u explain to us why not to vote for you? :\
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we all say we dnt revenge vote...
ill leave it up to you to decide how honest every1 is about it and u said yourself you don't think hods is mafia @.@ so im now confused in excately why you're still lynching him
just to let you know im not protecting hods im just thinking there are possibly more suspicious people we could be lynching
but then again im new to this group of ppl and they might just be acting like themselves but appear suspicious to me
so im not going to mention who i think is suspicious atm ><
i dnt think any1 would vote with me anyways
i like the no lynch idea but if every1 is determined to lynch some1 i will lynch with majority
and this is my normal game play >.>
ask steven edwin or gc
you only got to see me play one round last time...
ill leave it up to you to decide how honest every1 is about it and u said yourself you don't think hods is mafia @.@ so im now confused in excately why you're still lynching him
just to let you know im not protecting hods im just thinking there are possibly more suspicious people we could be lynching
but then again im new to this group of ppl and they might just be acting like themselves but appear suspicious to me
so im not going to mention who i think is suspicious atm ><
i dnt think any1 would vote with me anyways
i like the no lynch idea but if every1 is determined to lynch some1 i will lynch with majority
and this is my normal game play >.>
ask steven edwin or gc
you only got to see me play one round last time...
Lucyfer- Treasure hunter
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Nox Noctis wrote:
Lucyfer, if we're talking about analysising and what not, you've definitly changed ur game play, last game all you did was make silly faces all the time...@_@ <_< T_T
i actually find that extremely insulting...
you might want to go back and see who was the one of first person to suspect both steven and gc in the last round...
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Oh you guys didn't see through it? I thot everyone was onto me......lol......Nox Noctis wrote:You do know that Stebung being defensive was just a play right? It was stupid on the towns behalf (which included me *facepalms*) to not see through that
She was the first to know something's up with me and GC though. And I agree this game she's playing differently.....Lucyfer, if we're talking about analysising and what not, you've definitly changed ur game play, last game all you did was make silly faces all the time...@_@ <_< T_T
There is a possibility that he is cos he's just acting fkn weird now. By instinct I don't think he is but by what he's doing I think he is. Unless he explains why he's doing what he's doing now of course I won't change my vote.u said yourself you don't think hods is mafia @.@ so im now confused in excately why you're still lynching him
just to let you know im not protecting hods im just thinking there are possibly more suspicious people we could be lynching
Ok who is more suspcious than hods? Tell me.
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Lucyfer wrote:Nox Noctis wrote:
Lucyfer, if we're talking about analysising and what not, you've definitly changed ur game play, last game all you did was make silly faces all the time...@_@ <_< T_T
i actually find that extremely insulting...
you might want to go back and see who was the one of first person to suspect both steven and gc in the last round...
Hey im just analysing as you suggested we should do. We all know this is just a game so maybe you should NOT take what goes on here to heart?
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im amazed you can tell whether i am or am not "taking things to heart" over the internet @.@ are you spying on me...?
yes this is a game so ill take wat you say seriously within this game
XD im just saying its really mean to say that i dnt contribute anything but 'silly faces'
even in the last game... i did contribute but if the only thing people are going to get from my posts are silly faces...
kinda makes me not want to post anything at all....
actually i will shut up for now the rest of this day phase
LYNCH WITH MAJORITY
yes this is a game so ill take wat you say seriously within this game
XD im just saying its really mean to say that i dnt contribute anything but 'silly faces'
even in the last game... i did contribute but if the only thing people are going to get from my posts are silly faces...
kinda makes me not want to post anything at all....
actually i will shut up for now the rest of this day phase
LYNCH WITH MAJORITY
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Day 1
Lynch List
- Hods_sorrow - 4 votes (xXLCP Dragon SlayerXx ,That Indian Guy, Stebung, Lucyfer) Needs 2 more votes to be lynched
-Stebung - 1 vote (Hods_sorrow) Needs 5 more votes to be lynched
Still to vote:
1-pyro+salt
3-Nox Noctis
8-mint.tea
9-Lenalesca
10-Reznor
11-iHazard
P.S I've had some inquiries and i can ASSURE you guys.This game is NOT a massive ring of death
I'm not that paranoid lolz.... anyway pls continue
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Not everyone is defensive when they are mafia. Different people play differently and some people hide it better than others.
It's extremely difficult to lynch the mafia or the SK in the first round as people don't really get into the game yet and they don't tend to leave hints or make mistakes as they do further along in the game, but that shouldn't stop you from lynching anyway. As TIG said, it's a step forward towards the end goal - to eradicate the mafia and win. Even if you get a townie, you'll get information about their roles.
To put it very simply, to vote for No Lynch is like giving the mafia a free kill on Night One. No lynch = we didn't even try to find out anything about each other or the mafia = sitting ducks for the night-kills.
As TIG also said, there are circumstances under which No Lynch is perfectly justified, but for this round, we don't actually have that many players, and so I'd rather take my chances with lynching than not. When you're in games with 25, 30 and upwards, it's very seldom you get the 1 in 5 or 1 in 4 chance.
It's extremely difficult to lynch the mafia or the SK in the first round as people don't really get into the game yet and they don't tend to leave hints or make mistakes as they do further along in the game, but that shouldn't stop you from lynching anyway. As TIG said, it's a step forward towards the end goal - to eradicate the mafia and win. Even if you get a townie, you'll get information about their roles.
To put it very simply, to vote for No Lynch is like giving the mafia a free kill on Night One. No lynch = we didn't even try to find out anything about each other or the mafia = sitting ducks for the night-kills.
As TIG also said, there are circumstances under which No Lynch is perfectly justified, but for this round, we don't actually have that many players, and so I'd rather take my chances with lynching than not. When you're in games with 25, 30 and upwards, it's very seldom you get the 1 in 5 or 1 in 4 chance.
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Lucyfer wrote:LYNCH WITH MAJORITY
deja vu?
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xXLCP Dragon SlayerXx wrote:Not everyone is defensive when they are mafia. Different people play differently and some people hide it better than others.
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thankyou for telling me this
i didnt know already
its only the first time ive played mafia...
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Like with any game, be it chess or football, all players have different styles. Some choose to be defensive (like Nox Noctis) regardless if they are mafia or not and others are quite aggressive (like That Indian Guy). Comparing to how people play when they are vanilla townies, a significant change in behaviour pattern can only mean three things:
1) They are mafia.
2) They have special roles within the town e.g. doctor/detective/vigilante.
3) They have a third party role - jester, survivor, serial killer, etc.
Non-significant behaviour changes or short-burst significant ones may just mean that people are having a bad day, or that they changed their course of thinking because of what someone else has said. It may or may not have to do with their roles. Some people who have important roles don't change at all. It's particularly difficult to tell in Day One, which is why I always encourage people to lynch someone.
It's not only a shot at getting mafia but also to see what the accused person has to say for him/herself, and it's also to see how other people react. If it happens to be mafia, maybe the other mafia in the game will try and help the person going to get lynched. If it happens to be someone important; doctor, vigilante, cop, serial killer, whatever, the person should react more. You might also be able to catch out who is mafia and who is not through voting patterns.
All these sorts of things come into play when people cast lynch votes and stuff and it's important not just to read what people post but actually see what people do within the game. And for each person it is different.
1) They are mafia.
2) They have special roles within the town e.g. doctor/detective/vigilante.
3) They have a third party role - jester, survivor, serial killer, etc.
Non-significant behaviour changes or short-burst significant ones may just mean that people are having a bad day, or that they changed their course of thinking because of what someone else has said. It may or may not have to do with their roles. Some people who have important roles don't change at all. It's particularly difficult to tell in Day One, which is why I always encourage people to lynch someone.
It's not only a shot at getting mafia but also to see what the accused person has to say for him/herself, and it's also to see how other people react. If it happens to be mafia, maybe the other mafia in the game will try and help the person going to get lynched. If it happens to be someone important; doctor, vigilante, cop, serial killer, whatever, the person should react more. You might also be able to catch out who is mafia and who is not through voting patterns.
All these sorts of things come into play when people cast lynch votes and stuff and it's important not just to read what people post but actually see what people do within the game. And for each person it is different.
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Lucyfer wrote:im amazed you can tell whether i am or am not "taking things to heart" over the internet @.@ are you spying on me...?
yes this is a game so ill take wat you say seriously within this game
XD im just saying its really mean to say that i dnt contribute anything but 'silly faces'
even in the last game... i did contribute but if the only thing people are going to get from my posts are silly faces...
kinda makes me not want to post anything at all....
actually i will shut up for now the rest of this day phase
LYNCH WITH MAJORITY
thats very diplomatic of you because you don't risk a revenge lynch or make yourself standout and not to mention it appeases the majority of the players but on the other hand it means that if ppl lean on you a bit, you'll just change your vote instantly
lynch Lucyfer
you said in an earlier post before that you found someone(s) suspcious but when someone else asked about it, you said that you didn't want to say because you don't think ppl will believe/follow you. The whole point of the day phase is to disscuss and provide reasoning who and why a person could be mafia and eliminate them... maybe its time for you to start sharing with the rest of the class?
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Why thank you, i shall take that as a complimentReznor wrote:You seem to be playing a very analytical and logical game Indian Guy, you too Dragonslayer...
Says the person who won the inaugural round of MafiaNox Noctis wrote:Why should i not be lynched?.. I may not be the brightest spark of the lot
I actually have to commend steven on that i must say. The fact that he wasnt lynched Day 1 that game still suprises the hell out of me with the way he was protecting gc-x to such a degree. :cheers:Stebung wrote:Oh you guys didn't see through it? I thot everyone was onto me......lol......Nox Noctis wrote:You do know that Stebung being defensive was just a play right? It was stupid on the towns behalf (which included me *facepalms*) to not see through that
I kind of feel bad for hods now, i mean, not everyone can be as awesome as me after all 8)Nox Noctis wrote: @hods trying-to-be-TIG FAIL.
Such as....?Lucyfer wrote:just to let you know im not protecting hods im just thinking there are possibly more suspicious people we could be lynching
Its better to mention it now when you have a chance to, then not ever should you be killed by chance.Lucyfer wrote:so im not going to mention who i think is suspicious atm ><
Its great that you managed to be suspicious of the two Mafia last round quite early, but thats only half the work. The other part (and the more important part of the task) is to convince others that they are the Mafia. Basically, gut instinct/investigation goes hand in hand with persuasion i think. its useless to be good at one without the other.Lucyfer wrote:Nox Noctis wrote:
Lucyfer, if we're talking about analysising and what not, you've definitly changed ur game play, last game all you did was make silly faces all the time...@_@ <_< T_T
i actually find that extremely insulting...
you might want to go back and see who was the one of first person to suspect both steven and gc in the last round...
Kagerouhi, but she isnt playing in this roundStebung wrote:Ok who is more suspcious than hods? Tell me.
I would actually say almost all players in this game tend to be defensive/reactive players. Very few are more aggressive/proactive players. Which is fair enough since its riskier playing the latterxXLCP Dragon SlayerXx wrote:Like with any game, be it chess or football, all players have different styles. Some choose to be defensive (like Nox Noctis) regardless if they are mafia or not and others are quite aggressive (like That Indian Guy)
This is all true (to an extent) and was something i was hoping to not have to mention at such an early stage of a game. Because by doing so, it allows the mafia/serial killer a chance to adequately prepare in their play.xXLCP Dragon SlayerXx wrote:Comparing to how people play when they are vanilla townies, a significant change in behaviour pattern can only mean three things:
1) They are mafia.
2) They have special roles within the town e.g. doctor/detective/vigilante.
3) They have a third party role - jester, survivor, serial killer, etc.
Non-significant behaviour changes or short-burst significant ones may just mean that people are having a bad day, or that they changed their course of thinking because of what someone else has said. It may or may not have to do with their roles. Some people who have important roles don't change at all. It's particularly difficult to tell in Day One, which is why I always encourage people to lynch someone.
It's not only a shot at getting mafia but also to see what the accused person has to say for him/herself, and it's also to see how other people react. If it happens to be mafia, maybe the other mafia in the game will try and help the person going to get lynched. If it happens to be someone important; doctor, vigilante, cop, serial killer, whatever, the person should react more. You might also be able to catch out who is mafia and who is not through voting patterns.
All these sorts of things come into play when people cast lynch votes and stuff and it's important not just to read what people post but actually see what people do within the game. And for each person it is different.
Of course there are exceptions to this as well, such as players who play the same style regardless of the role they get (Mafia/Vanilla Townie/Doctor/Jester etc) or play differently each time even if they get the same role continuously (continuously getting basic Townie roles etc.)
Day One is always the hardest day and is basically always a shot in the dark for the town. We can discuss and make some educated guesses/summations as to improve the odds of getting a Mafia, but short of extraordinary circumstances (i.e. Accidental tell on the part of the Mafia or a Tall, Dark and Handsome Indian Guy holds an investigation ) do you ever get something better than a 30% chance to get a Mafia/Serial Killer on Day One.
Looks at poster Pyro+Salt wishes to lynch...OMG Lucyfer is the Doctorpyro+salt wrote:lynch Lucyfer
@ sKeam: You should know, when a person lynches with the majority, what you do is decrease the total lynch vote required count of everyone by 1. Not just add it to whoever has the highest count at the time. This is because its easier to keep track of then should the votings change drastically during the course of a game.
Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
Lynch Skeam for noob mod again
Stebung- Captain GrumpyPants
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Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
okok >.> ill say
but im just saying i havent played a round with this person yet so idk
but i find TIG suspicious okay?
why i didnt want to say before because its only a feeling i have no proof or and reasoning behind it just yet
UNLYNCH WITH MAJORITY
im not mafia
im not the joker
im not unlynchable
but ill LYNCH LUCYFER
you can all lynch me statistically i have a 1/5 or something chance of being mafia >.> so just blindly follow statistics and not by analysising the whole picture
but im just saying i havent played a round with this person yet so idk
but i find TIG suspicious okay?
why i didnt want to say before because its only a feeling i have no proof or and reasoning behind it just yet
UNLYNCH WITH MAJORITY
im not mafia
im not the joker
im not unlynchable
but ill LYNCH LUCYFER
you can all lynch me statistically i have a 1/5 or something chance of being mafia >.> so just blindly follow statistics and not by analysising the whole picture
Lucyfer- Treasure hunter
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Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
That was what I was trying to say when Lucyfer first talked about no lynching.To put it very simply, to vote for No Lynch is like giving the mafia a free kill on Night One. No lynch = we didn't even try to find out anything about each other or the mafia = sitting ducks for the night-kills.
@Reznor: I'm still waiting for that answer, what are the reasons why we should keep YOU and the 3 ppl you mentioned should be kept in the game? So far I think TIG, Nox, and I have answered ur question. If you're waiting for mint.tea's reply before answering it, you're welcome, we have all the time in the world.
My opinion on hods:he's either doing this on purpose/is the mafia, or he's just really bad at acting normal underpressure. I mean look at the previous games, he doesn't have much of a track record, that's like the ONLY reason I'm not lynching RIGHT now because I'll be honest, his REACTIONS after being voted against makes him a lot more suspicious. I dunno it could be due to just panicking of not wanting to be killed. But I want to hear back from Reznor and her defense of her apparently army of 3 before I take a vote. But right now Hods, you have my soon-to-be vote.
@Lucyfer: Don't act like an idiot just because someone pissed you off. If you don't play this at least semi-seriously then other players will see you as dead weight or someone purposely messing things up.
Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
Lenalesca wrote:That was what I was trying to say when Lucyfer first talked about no lynching.To put it very simply, to vote for No Lynch is like giving the mafia a free kill on Night One. No lynch = we didn't even try to find out anything about each other or the mafia = sitting ducks for the night-kills.
@Reznor: I'm still waiting for that answer, what are the reasons why we should keep YOU and the 3 ppl you mentioned should be kept in the game? So far I think TIG, Nox, and I have answered ur question. If you're waiting for mint.tea's reply before answering it, you're welcome, we have all the time in the world.
My opinion on hods:he's either doing this on purpose/is the mafia, or he's just really bad at acting normal underpressure. I mean look at the previous games, he doesn't have much of a track record, that's like the ONLY reason I'm not lynching RIGHT now because I'll be honest, his REACTIONS after being voted against makes him a lot more suspicious. I dunno it could be due to just panicking of not wanting to be killed. But I want to hear back from Reznor and her defense of her apparently army of 3 before I take a vote. But right now Hods, you have my soon-to-be vote.
@Lucyfer: Don't act like an idiot just because someone pissed you off. If you don't play this at least semi-seriously then other players will see you as dead weight or someone purposely messing things up.
o.o i think im playing this round too seriously
and um your wrong
ARRGGGGH i have to relate this to TOP >.> mayb steven would be the only one that understands
remember when we were pvping?
and you died?
and you were like sorry
and carmen was like np you took one more hit for us?
@.@ idk how to say it properly....
Lucyfer- Treasure hunter
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Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
i forgot to mention im not messing things up i just dont think we should agree with everything TIG says
Lucyfer- Treasure hunter
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Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
*facepalm* Have you actually read the posts made in the thread, in specific this post by LCP?Lucyfer wrote:okok >.> ill say
but im just saying i havent played a round with this person yet so idk
but i find TIG suspicious okay?
why i didnt want to say before because its only a feeling i have no proof or and reasoning behind it just yet
UNLYNCH WITH MAJORITY
im not mafia
im not the joker
im not unlynchable
but ill LYNCH LUCYFER
you can all lynch me statistically i have a 1/5 or something chance of being mafia >.> so just blindly follow statistics and not by analysising the whole picture
Also, if you find me suspicious more than hods, why not vote to lynch me instead? I mean, your gut instinct would fail you in this regard, but at least it would make more sense then voting for yourself.
Why try to get yourself lynched to try and prove your point about this lynch? (No where have I or even LCP) have said that the chances for this successfully lynching are Mafia are guaranteed or high on Day One (or that you should follow along with us, its up to you guys to decide after all). But we are being realistic about this and at least its a move in the right direction. You on the other hand have just complained about something that is really more of a means to an end.
You know you could have instead of playing the pity me card, could have done something proactive in finding these hints/tells you keep mentioning (point out what is suspicious about a person, ask questions, investigate etc)
Even revealing your role would have been a more productive more than lynch voting yourself.
You mentioned you werent Mafia/Joker (Jester)/Unlynchable. Does that mean you are the Serial Killer
P.S. Dont mean to sound harsh in my post
Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
sure think watever you like >.>
im not serial killer either
o.o i dnt see how lynching myself is extreme unless every1 follows suit
i've played games where the mafia would kill their own to win the game
of course its not possible here cos roles get revealed....
and chances of catching the mafia is higher as more rounds pass...
dnt actually have a role role like mafia or viligante or serial killer
it just says im on town's side
@.@ i can give you my character name but it would most definately get me targeted by mafia
which in that case it would be far more productive if i just get myself lynched
im not serial killer either
o.o i dnt see how lynching myself is extreme unless every1 follows suit
i've played games where the mafia would kill their own to win the game
of course its not possible here cos roles get revealed....
and chances of catching the mafia is higher as more rounds pass...
dnt actually have a role role like mafia or viligante or serial killer
it just says im on town's side
@.@ i can give you my character name but it would most definately get me targeted by mafia
which in that case it would be far more productive if i just get myself lynched
Lucyfer- Treasure hunter
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Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
@.@ im not playing the pity me card...
im playing the mafia wouldnt do this card...
and i have been trying to be proactive this round
mayb i should just go back to doing faces then
>.< >.> XD ._. -.- o.o .-.
im playing the mafia wouldnt do this card...
and i have been trying to be proactive this round
mayb i should just go back to doing faces then
>.< >.> XD ._. -.- o.o .-.
Lucyfer- Treasure hunter
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Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
Day 1
Lynch List
- Hods_sorrow - 3 votes (xXLCP Dragon SlayerXx ,That Indian Guy, Stebung) Needs 3 more votes to be lynched
-Stebung - 1 vote (Hods_sorrow) Needs 5 more votes to be lynched
-Lucyfer - 2 votes (pyro+salt,Lucyfer) Needs 4 more votes to be lynched
Still to vote:
3-Nox Noctis
8-mint.tea
9-Lenalesca
10-Reznor
11-iHazard
sKeam- Magneto
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Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
I never said people had to agree with everything i said. I was just offering them an alternative option to just twiddling around our thumbs and doing nothing (i.e. Day One Harry Potter Mafia)Lucyfer wrote:i forgot to mention im not messing things up i just dont think we should agree with everything TIG says
LOLWUT?Lucyfer wrote:o.o i think im playing this round too seriously
and um your wrong
ARRGGGGH i have to relate this to TOP >.> mayb steven would be the only one that understands
remember when we were pvping?
and you died?
and you were like sorry
and carmen was like np you took one more hit for us?
@.@ idk how to say it properly....
It isnt productive or benificial in anyway for the town. Especially if you are on their side, its basically like saying you are giving up.Lucyfer wrote:o.o i dnt see how lynching myself is extreme unless every1 follows suit
This would be stupid in most cases, especially when its likely the town out number the mafia 8 or so to 2 at this stage.Lucyfer wrote:i've played games where the mafia would kill their own to win the game
What you are saying here, and what you said above dont add up...Lucyfer wrote:@.@ i can give you my character name but it would most definately get me targeted by mafia
which in that case it would be far more productive if i just get myself lynched
And if what you said in that quote is true, then that was really foolish what you said. A character reveal gives you the possibility of being protected by the doctor at night and makes the mafia second guess if they should target you or not that night.
Also how would lynching you (a townie as you say) be a better move than lynching hods (who you dont know if he is or isnt a townie?)
Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
Be proactive in the sense of finding the Mafia on Day One (which seems to be your goal at the moment) and you said you wanted us to do. I on the other hand realize that the chances of that happening arent that great on Day One (short of someone, perhaps even you doing some kind of sleuthing) and that we should focus on making a unison decision this day and start the scumhunt on Day Two (once we have information on a character via lynch and the results of their night actions & story)Lucyfer wrote:@.@ im not playing the pity me card...
im playing the mafia wouldnt do this card...
and i have been trying to be proactive this round
mayb i should just go back to doing faces then
>.< >.> XD ._. -.- o.o .-.
At the moment, almost anything we do, is basically a blind guess. Unless you have some better option to offer us/going to do?
Please dont just posts faces I would rather people debate and discuss than that (and no one is saying that you shouldnt debate and discuss )
Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
Everytime I check in its gotten more insane maybe getting lynched will be a good thing
hods_sorrow- $$
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Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
okay basically wat i want is either a no lynch in day one
or the lynching of some1 i think is more suspicious than hods @.@
idk y i dnt find hods suspicious
XD i realise i must seem pretty suspicious so i understand if any1 wants to lynch me
ill hold no grudges
another distingiushing feature of the mafia i have found over the games i have played is their willingness to lynch any1 but the other mafias
just something to note for the future....
and the mafia killing another mafia can be done if there are mayb 2 mafia and 2-4 townies 1 mafia dies securing at least 2 rounds for the other mafia in which they can kill the whole town @.@
or the lynching of some1 i think is more suspicious than hods @.@
idk y i dnt find hods suspicious
XD i realise i must seem pretty suspicious so i understand if any1 wants to lynch me
ill hold no grudges
another distingiushing feature of the mafia i have found over the games i have played is their willingness to lynch any1 but the other mafias
just something to note for the future....
and the mafia killing another mafia can be done if there are mayb 2 mafia and 2-4 townies 1 mafia dies securing at least 2 rounds for the other mafia in which they can kill the whole town @.@
Lucyfer- Treasure hunter
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Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
NOTICE: GAME UPDATE
I'm very sorry to intrude in this magnificent game .But Mint.tea has informed me that she won't be able to play due to her own circumstances. :S
Therefore there are two possible things that can happen now:
-We take mint.tea's character as the lynching for today, and advance to night one now(most probable option)
OR
-Replace her with someone else. But the most likely candidate for replacement (Alena) is too busy to play.So i cant think of anyone else practical to replace her role :S
I didnt feel it would be reasonable to have her as a night kill, as it would just confuse everyone more.
For discreteness .Everyone please tell me what you think should happen via PM.You can say it here in this thread if you want...
Thank You
I'm very sorry to intrude in this magnificent game .But Mint.tea has informed me that she won't be able to play due to her own circumstances. :S
Therefore there are two possible things that can happen now:
-We take mint.tea's character as the lynching for today, and advance to night one now(most probable option)
OR
-Replace her with someone else. But the most likely candidate for replacement (Alena) is too busy to play.So i cant think of anyone else practical to replace her role :S
I didnt feel it would be reasonable to have her as a night kill, as it would just confuse everyone more.
For discreteness .Everyone please tell me what you think should happen via PM.You can say it here in this thread if you want...
Thank You
sKeam- Magneto
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Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
Can I play two characters?
Stebung- Captain GrumpyPants
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Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
Sunset
YOU SURE CAN'T!!!!Stebung wrote:Can I play two characters?
Thanks for the reply guys. mint.tea now counts as the lynch for day one . Please dont forget about the events of this day though
With the death of a crucial ally during the previous night. A certain Z -Fighter was questioning his own ability and whether a years worth of training was enough..
[Piccolo]The destruction… I don’t think I can take this…
[Majority]Come on Green Man harden up!
[Piccolo]No I can’t take this anymore!! I’ve had enough of living in this godforsaken planet! Can’t people just leave the Earth alone!?!Villan after villan after villan….they just keep on coming don’t they? I have done you all enough favours!
Piccolo explodes in a rage of anger, with not a single limb left to regenerate..Leaving the town unharmed. But shocked and confused.
R.I.P
Mint.tea - Piccolo : ( Bodyguard / Town) - Modkilled
-Had a 50/50 chance of saving a certain character successfully in this game or dying in their place if they were targeted by a night kill.
Active List
1-pyro+salt
2-Stebung
3-Nox Noctis
4-Hods_sorrow
5-xXLCP Dragon SlayerXx
6-Lucyfer
7-That Indian Guy
9-Lenalesca
10-Reznor
11-iHazard
It is now Night 1 no one may post again until Day 2. Please send in your NIGHT ACTIONS ASAP to me now if you have one!
Thanks Guys.
sKeam- Magneto
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King Kai and Krillin: Reporting you the action of night one
Story thus far..
Last night on Dragonball Z Mafia:
Chi Chi had an interesting run in with the androids.
[Androids]Our data indicates that this is Chi Chi, the wife of Goku.Tell us where is Goku??
[Chi Chi]G-G-Goku?!?!Leave him alone!! He needs to be back home NOW!!Stop distracting him,tonight was meant to be the night he cooked for us!
[Androids]Hmph.. worthless human
Her famous *super fry pan swing-and-hit* technique (the Great Goku Silencer) failed her and as a result, she was hit and killed by a truck while running away from her attackers quick energy blasts.
Later,around the corner, a sudden flash of light blinds South City with the light of day.Signs of struggle and confusion have been found near the dead body of Chi Chi.Though it seems these events only took place a short while after her death.
The Androids are no where to be seen.
With no strong leads in finding the androids.It will be a difficult task to find the human like cyborgs in the vast city sprawl.
So, with the death of his wife, Goku and co. prepare to fight it out another day, but who will be next? Find out now on Dragonball Z Mafia! .
R.I.P
Mint.tea - Piccolo : ( Bodyguard / Town) - Modkilled:Day 1
-Had a 50/50 chance of saving a certain character successfully in this game or dying in their place if they were targeted by a night kill.
Stebung - Chi Chi : ( Voteblocker / Town) -Impaled whilst avoiding attacks from Androids.
-Her excessive nagging would stop a person from voting the next day phase.
Active List
1-pyro+salt
3-Nox Noctis
4-Hods_sorrow
5-xXLCP Dragon SlayerXx
6-Lucyfer
7-That Indian Guy
9-Lenalesca
10-Reznor
11-iHazard
It is now Day 2. If you are on the active list you can now post again!!!
sKeam- Magneto
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Re: Round 8 - Dragonball Z - Planet Under Siege (Town Wins)
Thank god she's dead.
I mean.
OH NO WE LOST A TOWNIE I'M CRYING MY EYES OUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I mean.
OH NO WE LOST A TOWNIE I'M CRYING MY EYES OUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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