Round 15 - Supernatural Mafia - Lucifer Rising (Mafia Wins)

creature124 wrote:Why did Idle vote for GC again? I can't remember, and I cbf hunting for it.

looked at the most inactive player. voted them in order to try and get them to post and play more in the game. if they start posting ill unvote, if they just stay quiet and dont post even after getting a couple of votes, then they deserve to get voted off.

plus, id rather lose an inactive townie then an active townie, since at this stage unless "TIG pulls a bunny out of his hat" or one of us has an idea in the next day or too, voting an inactive seems like the only reasonable move to do to me

@Skeam: Who you think I should lynch? How strange to ask since I am quite busy these days (curse Uni, CURSE IT! AND WE HAV NO STUDY WEEK THIS SEMESTER) but because I'm allergic to the walls of txt from vin & stebung (txt book does that for me) I kinda looked at all the other posts and I hav to say if I must pick I would pick you. It's mainly to do with the way you slightly (well ok - quite) overly critiqued me in my confrontational demand that one of these people (TIG, PYRO & NOX) be mafia. Well I'm not lynching you because I'm pissed off, but rather that you seem pretty interested in an accusation that didn't really involve you. I mean TIG & Pyro replied & I feel that yea their replies are reasonable but you came out of no where and started proclaiming that I did such a noob accusation etc and it leads me to believe either: a) You just felt like having a go at me even tho srsly it wasn't your business or b) you were trying to shift attention away from someone. I don't know but since you asked, I thought I'd tell you the truth, right now I wud vote for you, but I might lynch with others to rid of those pesky inactivated ppl

LOL well i'm glad it only took us 5 pages to get back to what we do almost EVERY first day phase....
lynch the inactives... ^-^

Only five pages. This is refreshingly short. I've grown so accustomed to day ones filled with 15+ pages of blathering, this is remarkably concise imo.

Hey GC,

As you can see the town has more or less decided to go for inactive by the end of this day phase, at the mo theres already a few against your name. Post more mate, I dont wanna hear you complain that everyone bandwagoned your arse, we've gave you enough time warning

Lynch GC-x

Lynch gc-x

Its been said. Shape up, or ship out.

Lucyfer wrote:LOL well i'm glad it only took us 5 pages to get back to what we do almost EVERY first day phase....
lynch the inactives... ^-^

Post Hoc Fallacy. Explain to me how you think we can find the inactives to lynch if we dont have some kind of topic to discussion? (Not that i am saying lynching inactive is the best move, that would be people actually coming up with a decent plan to implement and not continuously rely on me, gets boring when im the only one playing just the best last resort over a No Lynch in my opinion)

and im hearing a lot of attitude from you about peoples ideas/plans and no contributions as to your own plans The others at least are making attempts to move the game along, you just sit back and criticize moves that are made out of necessity (as they were explained to you in a previous round)

Agreed. After reading through the last page or so, its best to get rid of the inactive people. So at the moment, I'm thinking GC-X, but I'll leave it for now, and hopefully we will see him post tonight...maybe. LOL.

Either him or pongo, neither is being very vocal. -_-

Yeah, but for Pongobear, is this his first game ever?
Because if it is, it sort of makes sense to take some time to get into it...I think?
LOL, he checks all the time, but mainly "lurks". Nice choice of words huh...

sKeam wrote:@Stebung.why did you vote with majority.

Why didn't you read what I said? It's all in my post.

@Lucyfer: What ideas do you have then? If you have a way to tell who is mafia on day one please let us know.

I think so, it is indeed Pongo's first game, but surprisingly he has posted more than GC XD

at least i still check ;_; i have a test tomorow night that im studying for....

You cant lynch the shifty eyes I cant vote for him on Day One after he proved me wrong like that

@Pongobear - Stop lurking and start studying more

It seems like gc-x only needs one more vote to be lynched.

Pongo Bear wrote:at least i still check ;_; i have a test tomorow night that im studying for....

Hehe, I'm only teasing XD

Lynch vote count:
Nox Noctis - 1/5 vote - (Pyro+Salt)
Gc-X - 3/5 vote - (Idlefingers, Nox Noctis, Creature124)

Voting with majority:
Stebung
Pongobear

Yet to vote:
- Gc-X
- Lenalesca
- Lucyfer
- Mint.Tea
- sKeam
- That Indian Guy

Oh for goodness sake Lynch Gc-X we need some more night info.

Lynch vote count:
Nox Noctis - 1/5 vote - (Pyro+Salt)
Gc-X - 4/5 vote - (Idlefingers, Nox Noctis, Creature124, Lenalesca)

Voting with majority:
Stebung
Pongobear

Yet to vote:
- Gc-X
- Lucyfer
- Mint.Tea
- sKeam
- That Indian Guy

this isnt really my week....

Lenalesca wrote:@Skeam: Who you think I should lynch? How strange to ask since I am quite busy these days (curse Uni, CURSE IT! AND WE HAV NO STUDY WEEK THIS SEMESTER) but because I'm allergic to the walls of txt from vin & stebung (txt book does that for me) I kinda looked at all the other posts and I hav to say if I must pick I would pick you. It's mainly to do with the way you slightly (well ok - quite) overly critiqued me in my confrontational demand that one of these people (TIG, PYRO & NOX) be mafia. Well I'm not lynching you because I'm pissed off, but rather that you seem pretty interested in an accusation that didn't really involve you. I mean TIG & Pyro replied & I feel that yea their replies are reasonable but you came out of no where and started proclaiming that I did such a noob accusation etc and it leads me to believe either: a) You just felt like having a go at me even tho srsly it wasn't your business or b) you were trying to shift attention away from someone. I don't know but since you asked, I thought I'd tell you the truth, right now I wud vote for you, but I might lynch with others to rid of those pesky inactivated ppl

LOL Defensive much?? Cant i ask a simple question... But thanks for the honesty

-I did not "overly critique" you , whatever that means, it wasn't even a threat or anything if i recall.I just stated my opinions cuz i felt like it .I dunno why youre getting all defensive over me but ok then.

a)Maybe i was.... cuz i can,anything posted here becomes everyones business, i have every right to reply or not reply to whatever ppl say and ppl can say whatever they want to me .So its not like i cant talk to someone in the game...Why is it not my business... :S
B)It wasnt even a big of point, so i dont get how you felt i was shifting attention away from someone..I addressed other ppl as well in that post if i recall??

Lenalesca wrote:Oh for goodness sake Lynch Gc-X we need some more night info.

Or more night kills?

My bad if i missed anything else, i just skimmed through this.

Damn why isnt Hods playing lol this thread would of been much shorter.....

Sigh..I personally dont wanna lynch gc-x,but on the other hand it would just be stalling and its gonna be the deadline soon and its better than no lynch... :S I guess everyone is playing it safe.And my bad if im not as inactive in this game aswell..

Sorry Lynch gc-x ...............

Lynch vote count:
Nox Noctis - 1/5 vote - (Pyro+Salt)
Gc-X - 5/5 vote - (Idlefingers, Nox Noctis, Creature124, Lenalesca, sKeam) LYNCHED

Voting with majority:
Stebung
Pongobear

Yet to vote:
- Gc-X
- Lucyfer
- Mint.Tea
- That Indian Guy

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R.I.P.
Gc-X - Uriel - Specialist (Angel) - Town

Active List
- Creature124
- Idlefingers
- Lenalesca
- Lucyfer
- Mint.Tea
- Nox Noctis
- Pongobear
- Pyro+Salt
- sKeam
- Stebung
- That Indian Guy

It is now Night 1. People who have Night actions send them in now. Time limit for Night Actions to get in is Wednesday 6pm (NZ time) But the quicker you guys get your night actions in, the quicker i can start the next phase

“No, it cant be. Not him.” Pamela shrieked in pain as the psychic energies overwhelmed her body. Cutting out of the trance so that the pain would subside from the intense séance that she had just undertaken. Pamela gasped out the demons name...

“Alistair”

“Aw, now why did you have to go and put your nose in it where it didn’t belong silly” the voice of a little girl echoed in Pamelas ears as she opened her eyes.

It was Lillith.

“You know i cant have you go off and warning those pesky little humans and angels of his presence. He does oh so hate it when he gets interrupted in his work. Said he had big plans for tonight as well”

Lilith eyes went fully white as she held out her hand and flung Pamelas body against the wall. She used looked around the room and spotted a cross hanging on the far wall. With a smile, she used her demonic powers to spear it right into the eyes and through the brain of the Psychic Pamela.

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Sam was amped up and ready to kill. He felt confident that he had planned this out right and had enough juice this time to take him out.

After tracking him for a few hours, he ended up following him to an abandoned church just on the outskirts of town. Now was the time to make his move he thought. Sam began to make his way towards him, when suddenly Castiel showed up next to him.

“What are you doing here Sam?” Castiel said with his head slightly askew in curiosity. “Why isn’t Dean with you?”

Sam was surprised. He did not expect Castiel to be here. If he tried to go through with his plans now, Dean would surely hear of Sams new development in powers and he couldn’t have that happening, not yet anyway. Thinking it best to let his victim go, at least for this night, he tried to cover for himself.

"I just thought it would be a good idea if we stocked up on some extra holy water, what with all the demons on the loose now trying to free Lucifer" Sam said in a husky voice, hoping Castiel would just leave him thinking it was a menial task so that Sam could do what he came for.

Castiel stared into Sams eyes and tilted his head to the other side. "Very well, let us head back and i shall bless the water for you then"

Frustrated at himself, Sam had no choice but to head back with Castiel now. It was too early for him to make his move...

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R.I.P.
Reznor - Ghostfacers - Town - (Killed Night 0)
Gc-X - Uriel - Town - Specialist (Angel) - Possessed 3x 1-Shot abilities- (Lynched Day 1)
Creature124 - Pamela Barnes - Town - Psychic (Human) - Could find out the identity of any of any Non-Angel player. Looking upon an Angel would cause her to go blind - (Killed Night 1 by Lilith)

Active List
- Idlefingers
- Lenalesca
- Lucyfer
- Mint.Tea
- Nox Noctis - KIDNAPPED - Can only post to Lynch and Unlynch during this Day Phase
- Pongobear
- Pyro+Salt
- sKeam
- Stebung
- That Indian Guy

It is now Day 2, you may being posting again.

My interpretation of the story.....

It seems Lilith and Alistair are obviously the main mafias here. And they succeeded in killing the investigator.

Sam on the other hand which really confuses me. TIG mentioned he is highly likely to be connected with Ruby but Ruby was not even mentioned in the story like Lilith and Alistair. I mean from the plot lines she is a major character with Sam in the series. I don't know what to make of that. Is Sam a SK and Ruby being the 3rd member of Lilith and Alistair's mafia side or what? At least what we are sure of is that Sam can kill and the mafia can kill.

Castiel seems to be the town protector and protected one person that Sam was trying to kill. Bravo.

Well that's all I got from the story. But if my interpretation is right it should suggest that out of the 10 players that is left. 4 (Ruby, Sam, Lilith, Alistair) of them are obvious baddies with variable setup and has 2 kills in between them. On the other hand the 6 town player left. There is a protector and HOPEFULLY other helpful roles left.

So by the look of it would be really good for everyone to lynch a mafia this day phase. WOULD IT BE COOL FOR EVERYONE TO TELL US THE GENDER OF YOUR CHARACTER? It will be a good start for now if it's allowed.

QUESTIONS TO MOD: Are the players allowed to reveal their genders of their characters before I reveal my own as well?

Points of interest from story:
*Pamela (Investigator) targeted and found player Alistair but got killed by Lilith during the same night. Guess that info is useless unless we have a Watcher who watched Creature124 last night or a Tracker who followed someone to Creature124.
* Alistair is in the game and teamed up with Lilith to form the or at least part of the Mafia.
* I am assuming from Lilith mention of Alistair having a "big plan" that he is the Kidnapper, though it could be possible that this is Ruby's ability and why she wasnt mentioned in the story (she was out kidnapping someone) Kidnapping however fits better with Alistair i think, since he was the head torturer in hell.
* Kidnapping is a powerful mafia ability from my past experience in the games on other forums, as they are able to effectively silence a player they perceive to be a threat (for their possible power/information or people they find suspicious) This could prove to be a troublesome power if he can do it every night
* We do at least know that based on that, Nox Noctis isnt Sam (as he was stopped by Castiel in the story) and not Lillith (as she was off killing Pamela).
* Sam is curious case to me in the story. I gather from Sams inner monologue and not wanting Dean to know what he is up to and being amped up on juice shows that we are most likely dealing with SK or Mafia Sam in some way (Vigilante Sam would not have a reason to hide what he is doing from Dean or Cas i would think). The fact that he is amped up still points to me that he is teamed up with Ruby, but like Stebung said, she wasnt mentioned in the story, so we cant be sure as of yet, though i do believe this may be the case.
* Player Sam targeted someone but was either a) Roleblocked by Player Castiel or b) Castiel protected that someone so Sam couldnt kill them.
* No mention of Ruby, her affiliation and ability as such is ambiguous at the moment.

Stebung wrote:So by the look of it would be really good for everyone to lynch a mafia this day phase. WOULD IT BE COOL FOR EVERYONE TO TELL US THE GENDER OF YOUR CHARACTER? It will be a good start for now if it's allowed.

I dont mind doing this, but ill tell you now, most of the main characters in SPN are male, so we arent going to get that many people telling us that they are female. Since out of the 10 left, we would only have 3 most likely: Lilith (Wont tell us she is a female and would claim male), Ruby (Wont tell us if she is a Mafia either and would claim male because of it) or Anna (Probably wouldnt come out for fear of being mistakenly lynched for the possibility that she is the other two girls).

So im not sure why you think it would be a good start in figuring out who is the Mafia, seeing as 7/10 are most likely going to be male characters and it is more than likely that 9/10 will claim to be male characters.

I however dont mind answering the question about gender and if Reznor allows it, will be happy to comply

My question for people: Who do you think are players who view Nox Noctis as a threat (in general or after Day 1) to want to kidnap her?

Stebung wrote:QUESTIONS TO MOD: Are the players allowed to reveal their genders of their characters before I reveal my own as well?

Players may reveal their gender if they wish too without fear of punishment or modkilling.

Reznor wrote:

Stebung wrote:QUESTIONS TO MOD: Are the players allowed to reveal their genders of their characters before I reveal my own as well?

Players may reveal their gender if they wish too without fear of punishment or modkilling.

Well in that case, my character is male

I'm a dude too, but as TIG previously stated, this gender reveal thing is going to be really limited on IDing mafia. Poor creature for finding out the mafia (quite possibly the godfather) then getting killed, from the story Castiel sounds more like a role-blocker to me, he should know who Sam is now & Sam does sound like SK this round (or town vigilante but the fact that Sam went behind Dean's back to kill ppl is kinda...). lol at the fact if Creature tried to find out an angel's identity he would lose his powers? XD oK but it sux that we effectively lost an investigator now
and i typed out a good paragraph for skeam to read before night phase started too but then when i was going to send it Reznor posted night phase start...i was like "............................"

@stebung: you saying Castiel stopping sam is a bad thing? from the story we can barely tell who he was going after. It could have been an important townie (could have been YOUR character...unless u r a girl...).
Who's likely to go to an abandoned church? or is that more like story irrelevant?

I am going to the airport now, to drop off LCP, so i wont be back till like after 6pm or so, but i am curious as to Nox's quick lynch choice Perhaps she learned something during the night phase? Will try to dig into it more when i get back.

oh gawd at Nox's big bold letters. Stebung what dost thou hav to say?

Points from the story:
-Likely Mafia (Lilith) killed Psychic (Creature/Pamela)
-Psychic (Creature/Pamela) found Alistair from the looks of it, another mafia member.But got killed.
-Sam has a killing role (Mafia,SK, or w/e)but sounds like got cockblocked by Castiel OR someone else saved whoever he was trying to target.

After tracking him for a few hours, he ended up following him to an abandoned church

-Tracking?!? :S
-So does anyone live in an abandoned church or something in the show?? EDIT: I just realised Lenalesca already asked............bah.But still relevant imo.

@Lenalesca.I hope you saved it so please feel free to write that response again.

That Indian Guy wrote:
My question for people: Who do you think are players who view Nox Noctis as a threat (in general or after Day 1) to want to kidnap her?

Right off the bat i'd have to say, Lenalesca Idlefingers and pyro or Me.It strikes me like something they'd do including me lol.... I think another question to ask is, WHY not kill her instead of leaving her around??Assuming they had discretion to do so. :S

@TIG: If the character "Zachariah" were to be in this game, what kinda power do you think he would have?? Also what do you think are the chances that the kidnapping' power is a result of a pro town power instead??. If i recall in my game i gave Chi Chi a pretty anti town power.. but this could of just been my fail modding though.

I esp want to hear from Lenalesca and Stebung as to who they think did this to Nox.

Question Time:
@Lucyfer:What do you think are the chances of a serial killer in this game????
@Idlefingers:Who are your top 2 suspects for mafia based on everything so far as of now and why?

@TIG: I would imagine the people that are kind of quiet like Iddlefingers, pyro...not as much? If Nox managed to find out who did this to her (with tracking maybe?) it would be her lynch choice so add stebung in there too. Oh yeah and skeam since he named me i might as well do my respects too.
@Skeam: no i didn's save it since unlike you my life doesn't revolve specifically around mafia. But I'll shorten it down right now, this is to do with your comments to me on day 1: I wasn't being defensive, I was being OFFENSIVE stating my suspicions of you. Just because I accused 3 ppl of them MIGHT being in the mafia and lo and behold SKEAM of all ppl disapproves --> How is that threatening? It wasn't like everyone's going to jump on a bandwagon and roll me off. My 2nd point: It HAD nothing to do with you! Out of the 3 ppl that responded to my finger pointing YOU were the only one who wasn't named in my accusations. Why compelled to go to a war that has nothing to do with you? Unless you have some stakes in it.

sKeam wrote:@Idlefingers:Who are your top 2 suspects for mafia based on everything so far as of now and why?

As of now, i would have to say Stebung is my #1 suspect after how day 1 went combined with what seems to be something Nox found out about Stebung during the night (If she didnt have a clue as to what happened to her or about a guilty person, i wouldnt think she would be as quick to lynch) #2 is toss up between Lucyfer, for her second guessing every move we try to make to keep the game going or Pyro+Salt (to a lesser extent), since she hasnt been posting all that much as i would expect, for a veteran player and avid fan of show.

Lenalesca wrote:@TIG: I would imagine the people that are kind of quiet like Iddlefingers, pyro...not as much? If Nox managed to find out who did this to her (with tracking maybe?) it would be her lynch choice so add stebung in there too. Oh yeah and skeam since he named me i might as well do my respects too.

As much as this may disappoint Nox, i was in no way affiliated with what happened her last night I dont dislike her as it may come across in the game. I just think its fun arguing with her So if i had a kidnapping power, i wouldnt have used it on her. Would have used it on TIG or Stebung to keep the wall of texts down or Lucyfer to stop the second guessing babble which gets us nowhere.

For now i am going to trust in what Nox seems to have found out, and lynch stebung unless stebung has a good defence to his actions so far and why Nox may be voting for him. Oh and my character is male as well.

@Stebung:Where were your whereabouts last night??

@Lenalesca:This is all i said.......just a simple commentary of what was happening in the game, i dont know why youre acting like this :S.....

And im disappointed in Lenalesca for bringing up the "ZOMG PPL WHO KNOW DA THEME = MOST LIKELY MUST B MAFIA" argument.... sigh..It could be true buts its not logical. We may aswell say Lucyfer is playing Lucifer and we should lyncher her now

i have no stakes in any of those 3 players or anyone else in fact. I still dont get why i cant address someone who has spoken IN THIS THREAD. Whatever said here becomes everyones business so i have everyone right to critique whoever i feel like.

Its funny how you liken what i said to "going to war" when thats not even my intentions at all :S . I didnt even accuse you of being mafia or anything remotely close to it, i was just pointing out the logical fallacy there.Why put up this "brick wall" for me...We're just going in circles tbh....

Pamela - Creature
Uriel - gc-X
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Castiel
Dean
Anna
Zachariah
Bobby

Alistair
Lillith
Azazel
Sam
Ruby (?)


Yeah, I agree with people. Claiming male/female won't make much difference. Especially if you're female, and you claim male.

sKeam wrote:@TIG: If the character "Zachariah" were to be in this game, what kinda power do you think he would have?? Also what do you think are the chances that the kidnapping' power is a result of a pro town power instead??. If i recall in my game i gave Chi Chi a pretty anti town power.. but this could of just been my fail modding though.

Although this is to TIG. I thought about the same thing, because in the link to Season 4, the last episode, it mentions about Castiel and Zachariah kidnapping Dean. So I'm not sure how that works out...

Mm, I'm not too sure which people are more suspicious than others though.
Stebung and Pongobear for me - I mean both voting with majority, and if they were mafia/SK or some sort of anti-town alignment, you'd want to get rid of any person really...(well I guess besides their own..)

About the Abandoned Church thing...I'm not too sure, but in some part of reading about Azazel, he possessed a priest. LOL I have no idea.

first things first...

Reznor wrote:"I just thought it would be a good idea if we stocked up on some extra holy water, what with all the demons on the loose now trying to free Lucifer" Sam said in a husky voice...

LOL!

right, TIG mentioned that he doesn't think that Sam is a vigilante for that fact that he wouldn't have reasons to hide from Castiel and Dean but remember, Sam is doing WHAT HE THINKS IS RIGHT even if he's going dark side to get results. I wouldn't rule out the possibility just yet...but i suppose the main point is that we know Sam has killing powers.

Sam followed someone to an "abandoned church" which means it can't be Alister cuz its still sacred ground and demons arn't allowed to set foot inside which means he was following a townie? Azazel was a differnt sort, higher in the demon hierchy so hallowed grounds and devils trap didn't work on him (but they did on Alister...)

and to ppl who think that I would be a prime suspect to kidnap Nox? why would i take out a more vocal player of the game first? wheres the fun in that for me? XD

Idlefingers wrote:...or Pyro+Salt (to a lesser extent), since she hasnt been posting all that much as i would expect, for a veteran player and avid fan of show.

whats the point of me repeating myself or what everone else has said after i voted ? if you looked up the past few pages of post, there wasn't really much development or new insights after we all came to the conclusion that we needed more info *shrugs* no point taking up space if i wasn't gonna add anything useful

Nox is pretty fast in wanting to lynch Stebung, i can't see the why she would do that if she was mafia cuz if the town did lynch stebung and he turned out town, we would of turned on her next. but I dn;t want rush into lyching him incase Nox saw something happen but is just interpreting it wrong

P.S. I'm a boy

sKeam wrote:-Likely Mafia (Lilith) killed Psychic (Creature/Pamela)

Its confirmed that she is mafia since she says she is working with Alistair in the game. This sounds similar to your whole "im 98% sure" phrases from last round

sKeam wrote:

After tracking him for a few hours, he ended up following him to an abandoned church

-Tracking?!? :S
-So does anyone live in an abandoned church or something in the show?? EDIT: I just realised Lenalesca already asked............bah.But still relevant imo.

I cant see Sam having both tracker and killing powers in the game, let alone able to use it at the same time i think that may have just been creative story telling on her part perhaps?

As for the church, there wasnt any prominent one featured in season 4, except for a flashback and the final scenes of season 4, when Lucifer was released. I initially didnt take this to mean much, thought it was just been creative story telling on her part again perhaps? But i suppose you guys may have a point and if it comes up again in a story then i think it may be an important factor indeed.

sKeam wrote:

That Indian Guy wrote:My question for people: Who do you think are players who view Nox Noctis as a threat (in general or after Day 1) to want to kidnap her?

Right off the bat i'd have to say, Lenalesca Idlefingers and pyro or Me.It strikes me like something they'd do including me lol.... I think another question to ask is, WHY not kill her instead of leaving her around??Assuming they had discretion to do so. :S

Can i ask for reasons as to why you think those 3/4 would have kidnapped her.

sKeam wrote:@TIG: If the character "Zachariah" were to be in this game, what kinda power do you think he would have??

Based on his character? I am guessing something to do with voting like a Politician (changing a persons vote) or Governor (prevent lynches) if not a role like that then im guessing town roleblocker? (Since Lillith referred to warning the humans and angels, it means that the angels are all townies) thats my best guess anyway

sKeam wrote:Also what do you think are the chances that the kidnapping' power is a result of a pro town power instead??. If i recall in my game i gave Chi Chi a pretty anti town power.. but this could of just been my fail modding though.

Kidnapping hasnt appeared as a townie player in any of the games i have ever played before. Wouldnt make much sense if it was a townie power to me anyway. It fits better with characters like Alistair and Ruby story wise at least. So no, i cant see it being a townie power unless Reznor threw us a curveball.

Lenalesca wrote:@TIG: I would imagine the people that are kind of quiet like Iddlefingers, pyro...not as much? If Nox managed to find out who did this to her (with tracking maybe?) it would be her lynch choice so add stebung in there too. Oh yeah and skeam since he named me i might as well do my respects too.

Same question as to sKeam, can i ask why you think Idle & Pyro (and Stebung if you have more reason for it)

mint.tea wrote:Mm, I'm not too sure which people are more suspicious than others though.
Stebung and Pongobear for me - I mean both voting with majority, and if they were mafia/SK or some sort of anti-town alignment, you'd want to get rid of any person really...(well I guess besides their own..)

I agree with this, at least as far as Stebung goes. Pongobear to a lesser extent.

mint.tea wrote:Azazel

Can i ask why you included him on your list of anti-town suspects? :huh:

mint.tea wrote:About the Abandoned Church thing...I'm not too sure, but in some part of reading about Azazel, he possessed a priest. LOL I have no idea.

If this is the reason, then he only appeared in a flashback as was said before (perhaps in one of my wall of texts which no one reads ) that Azazel died at the end of season 2

Question to the Mod: Is there a restriction on how many times a kidnapped person can vote?

Because i was ninja'd by Pyro+Salt while making my post XD

pyro+salt wrote:right, TIG mentioned that he doesn't think that Sam is a vigilante for that fact that he wouldn't have reasons to hide from Castiel and Dean but remember, Sam is doing WHAT HE THINKS IS RIGHT even if he's going dark side to get results. I wouldn't rule out the possibility just yet...but i suppose the main point is that we know Sam has killing powers.

I think a lot of Sams alignment hinges on what Ruby's alignment is. But true, there is a chance he is our Vigilante.

pyro+salt wrote:Sam followed someone to an "abandoned church" which means it can't be Alister cuz its still sacred ground and demons arn't allowed to set foot inside which means he was following a townie? Azazel was a differnt sort, higher in the demon hierchy so hallowed grounds and devils trap didn't work on him (but they did on Alister...)

i dont know about that, seeing as the Devils Trap that held Alistair was specially built by angels to contain him. Wasnt a normal human made one like that was used on Azazel. So i dont know if its wise to rule out that it could be Alistair that he was after.

Also point of note, the Demon killing knife didnt kill Alistair with a stab or 2 like it did the others, indicating he is quite high up in the demon hierarchy himself.

pyro+salt wrote:and to ppl who think that I would be a prime suspect to kidnap Nox? why would i take out a more vocal player of the game first? wheres the fun in that for me? XD

Didnt you lynch her last day phase I dont believe it was you who did it personally though at the moment.

pyro+salt wrote:Nox is pretty fast in wanting to lynch Stebung, i can't see the why she would do that if she was mafia cuz if the town did lynch stebung and he turned out town, we would of turned on her next. but I dn;t want rush into lyching him incase Nox saw something happen but is just interpreting it wrong

Quite a massive possibility of that happening Which is why i hope i can get an answer from Reznor soon before i get to the bottom of what happened

mint.tea wrote:
Mm, I'm not too sure which people are more suspicious than others though.
Stebung and Pongobear for me - I mean both voting with majority, and if they were mafia/SK or some sort of anti-town alignment, you'd want to get rid of any person really...(well I guess besides their own..)

well i dont have much defense against that on my part mostly on the count of me not having played as much as you guys/waiting on the game to progress/"studying" to be able to make a firm decision on who to vote


and well, i have nothing new to say that everyone else hasn't said, oh, and im a guy (not that it would help anyone)


(and on a side note: wow lol everyone seems to be on at about this time )

@TIG
I do read your long walls of text. I just tend to forget what I've read...
Sorry, my fail memory. I meant, Chuck then.

Then again, theres not really much about Chuck. I know he's a prophet...but is there any information in which would be useful?

That Indian Guy wrote:This sounds similar to your whole \"im 98% sure\" phrases from last round

And that was the only time in my argument where i wasn\'t lying

I have nothing concrete as to why i suspect these three, just gut instincts and player relations.These were the names that came into my head as soon as i heard its Nox .


Lenalesca - Just seems like something she\'d do nothing concrete...
Idlefingers- Just seems like something she\'d do too, but i know she likes to argue with Nox sicne i learnt that last round, but its interesting how she voted for her quite quick :S
pyro- Just seems like something she\'d do,but she did vote for her though.But i dont think it was serious and it could be obvious :S hmmmmm....

And i have to agree with what Pyro said about her aswell...So I\'m still waiting on Bung to hear what he says.


LOL I may aswell join the bandwagon and say im a guy as well .hahaha This is as funny as how everyone says \"Ill vote XXXXX for now\" when ppl vote for each other just to play things safe....

I lynched Nox last day phase for the lolz...come on! she got Meg confused *shakes head* I would of unlynched her if someone followed me...or if she actually replied to me wanting to lynch with either an outraged response or a 'lulwut?'

@TIG: I honestly have no clue who would do that to Nox, Iddlefingers & skeam perhaps grudges from last game (very long shot but skeam isn't giving me good vibes this game, I dunno why, it feels like he knows something that he's not telling us/me but hey we all know my gut instincts are fail most of the time). Stebung is more on my suspect list now since he has failed to reply much. Either he's figuring out his non-guilty story or busy, I think the former because he was SO vocal on day 1.
@mint.tea: Castiel and Zach kidnapping dean? wouldn't it need to be a 2 persons job then? Castiel was busy role blocking i think...
Right now i'm kind of 'hmmmm'-ing at Stebung (obvious), Edwin (some of his reasonings for what happened last night was weird, like how he pointed out 'tracking' when it was obvious that can't be right) and mint.tea (oh gawd look at the list of town vs anti-town, if it was a cult game then we're done for, i thought azazel died? nvm i'm going to ignore it & just say we're doomed...DOOMED).

That Indian Guy wrote:Question to the Mod: Is there a restriction on how many times a kidnapped person can vote?

A kidnapped player will be able to vote to Lynch a maximum of 3 times during a phase. (For example this means that Nox can change her vote 2 more times now). The 3rd vote is permanent.

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Lynch vote count:
Stebung - 2/6 Votes - (Nox Noctis, Idlefingers)

Yet to vote:
- Lenalesca
- Lucyfer
- Mint.Tea
- Pongobear
- Pyro+Salt
- sKeam
- Stebung
- That Indian Guy

Okay, there...are people happier now?
Pamela - Creature
Uriel - gc-X
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Castiel
Dean
Anna
Zachariah
Bobby
Chuck

Alistair
Lillith
Sam
Ruby (?)

@Lenalesca
I agree about your statement about Idle, sKeam and you (maybe) targeting Nox, mainly due to the last game. But then again Stebung too.
LOL, although its not really a good reason, I'm pretty sure its happened in the past Mafia games.

This is so fked up. I'm confused as hell as to why Nox voted for me. We did NOT interact in the day phase in this game and she couldn't have targeted me at night phase(I don't know if kidnapping affects night actions?)Speaking of night actions does she even have one? Unless she is another investigator which i HIGHLY DOUBT IT since it would fuckk up the balance of the game. It's just so random and out of no where. Ok wall of text coming through and hope I can make sense of this.

That Indian Guy wrote:

Stebung wrote:So by the look of it would be really good for everyone to lynch a mafia this day phase. WOULD IT BE COOL FOR EVERYONE TO TELL US THE GENDER OF YOUR CHARACTER? It will be a good start for now if it's allowed.

I dont mind doing this, but ill tell you now, most of the main characters in SPN are male, so we arent going to get that many people telling us that they are female. Since out of the 10 left, we would only have 3 most likely: Lilith (Wont tell us she is a female and would claim male), Ruby (Wont tell us if she is a Mafia either and would claim male because of it) or Anna (Probably wouldnt come out for fear of being mistakenly lynched for the possibility that she is the other two girls).

So im not sure why you think it would be a good start in figuring out who is the Mafia, seeing as 7/10 are most likely going to be male characters and it is more than likely that 9/10 will claim to be male characters.

My question for people: Who do you think are players who view Nox Noctis as a threat (in general or after Day 1) to want to kidnap her?

I have my own reasons to ask people's gender. Your logic in this idea is completely right of course I do not expect everyone to tell the truth right? We'll see how this goes k? I know what I'm doing.

As to your question I have no idea about that. I haven't really been paying attention to Nox in this game until just now when she voted for me. So I don't know.

Lenalesca wrote:@stebung: you saying Castiel stopping sam is a bad thing? from the story we can barely tell who he was going after. It could have been an important townie (could have been YOUR character...unless u r a girl...).

I don't understand what you are trying to say here sorry. You probably read my post wrong or something.....either quote me or explain to me again.....

Nox Noctis wrote:LYNCH STEBUNG

If you can change your vote because change it now or else we gonna have a hard time with me gone.

sKeam wrote:@Stebung:Where were your whereabouts last night??

Why do you care?

pyro wrote:Nox is pretty fast in wanting to lynch Stebung, i can't see the why she would do that if she was mafia cuz if the town did lynch stebung and he turned out town, we would of turned on her next. but I dn;t want rush into lyching him incase Nox saw something happen but is just interpreting it wrong

I hope the latter is the case because I don't see a reason at all for her to lynch me even if she found out something about me that night. Heck, I wonder even HOW she found out anything if the investigator of the town died. It seems to me she's bullshitting. Lets see.....

"if she was mafia cuz if the town did lynch stebung and he turned out town, we would of turned on her next." She might just be using that psychology to set me up. Looking at the players here. Out of the 10 people. We are probably having a 6 vs 4 good to bad ratio. If she's mafia she only needed one townie to die this day and having 2 kills this night to pretty much secure a victory for them. It seems to me it's more of a desperate move in trying to get the town to trust her and lynch me.

So basically I think she is either mafia trying to set me up under the psychology pyro mentioned. Or if she REALLY is another investigator which I doubt, and have read something wrong here.

For now I am highly suspicious of IDLE and NOX. IDLE basically followed suit without even thinking it through thoroughly like the rest of the players here. What reasons do you have in trusting her when the investigator died now?

@Skeam: i have no idea... but from what i can tell there doesn't seem to be one
1- there was no evidence of an SK last night
2- i think from the numbers having 2 night kills seems right...

...i wonder if the kidnapping is a anti-town power

@__@ if such a role was given to the mafia
what i would have done was kidnapped one of the mafia then have them lynch with majority
but since nox lynched steven so quick...
steven claims she will use reverse psychology so how about we do this...
if steven is town we well lynch nox next day no matter what?

well i guess now nox can just unlynch and lynch steven again if she is really sure he should die...

lastly - based on mint-tea's analysis it means we have... 4 antitown and 6 townies ><... doesnt seem too bad

( im male btw)

mint.tea wrote:I mean both voting with majority, and if they were mafia/SK or some sort of anti-town alignment, you'd want to get rid of any person really...(well I guess besides their own..)

Oh please it was day one as if anyone would find another person to be suspicious enough to risk a lynch. And not so rich of people to say this when they agreed to lynch inactive. Because it's not much better.

lenalesca wrote:Stebung is more on my suspect list now since he has failed to reply much. Either he's figuring out his non-guilty story or busy, I think the former because he was SO vocal on day 1.

I was the first to make post for this day and walls of texts with quotes in them do not take just 5 minutes to write. Please don't use inactiveness as a reason for suspiciousness. Because you know I'm not inactive.

lTIG wrote:If the character "Zachariah" were to be in this game, what kinda power do you think he would have??

Just based on character description on wiki it's really hard to tell. He seems to not be a so nice angel like Uriel. Since Uriel is just a normal townie so it's likely that he might just be a normal townie as well. But seeing that he is angel superior maybe he is mason with Castiel? Just a thought.

Lucyfer wrote:
@__@ if such a role was given to the mafia
what i would have done was kidnapped one of the mafia then have them lynch with majority
but since nox lynched steven so quick...
steven claims she will use reverse psychology so how about we do this...
if steven is town we well lynch nox next day no matter what?

lastly - based on mint-tea's analysis it means we have... 4 antitown and 6 townies ><... doesnt seem too bad

4 to 6 good to bad ratio. Even if I am anti town which leaves 3 anti town and 6 townies and 2 kills in the night phase. It'll be hard as it is. With me gone it'll be 4 vs 5 with 2 kills. And hopefully protectors don't fail. Or else townies will be really close to losing. You are cutting it really close with your idea Lucy.

If it make you guys sleep better then lynch me but it'll be hard for you guys in the day phases after with me gone.

I guess it's all up to if you guys trust me or Nox more. Because NOX's setup is pretty genius, she cannot say why she voted me but she votes for me. And everything I say in my own defense can be applied to both townie or mafia because obviously I can't role claim or else I get mod killed I can only use logic and what we have now from last night. And everyone else have no way of questioning Nox back because she is silent. So if I do indeed die. Either Nox fucked up as a town or was ingeniously mafia.

umm the investigator might hav died but it was mentioned she could be the tracker/watcher & knows who u targetted.