Round 15 - Supernatural Mafia - Lucifer Rising (Mafia Wins)

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Round 15 - Supernatural Mafia - Lucifer Rising (Mafia Wins)

Post by Reznor on Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:47 pm



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Re: Round 15 - Supernatural Mafia - Lucifer Rising (Mafia Wins)

Post by creature124 on Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:17 am

I would most likely go out on a date with Lucyfer because I think I need to investigate why my mate Paul gave up in despair.

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Re: Round 15 - Supernatural Mafia - Lucifer Rising (Mafia Wins)

Post by sKeam on Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:29 am

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I would most likely go out on a date with Mint.Tea
Because as cult leader, thats what she would make me do Very Happy

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Post by gc-X on Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:56 am

I would most likely go out on a date with Idlefingers because I like ...fingers?

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Post by That Indian Guy on Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:18 am

I would most likely go out on a date with Pyro+Salt because im probably one of the few guys who can handle her Dean Winchester fetish Razz

LMAO i love that video, good advice as well, as we seem to have a demon adjacent problem in this game XD First step for us should be figuring out what we are up against Hmm (Will post my thoughts once everyone else has posted, put some input of their own in Smile)

The new amendment to rule 7 should make this game more interesting, especially with trying to track down the mafia.

P.S. Would have thought you would have made yourself Castiel in this game Reznor Razz

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Post by Lucyfer on Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:00 pm

I would most likely go out on a date with Pongobear because i need to give back his haruhi dvd (btw it doesnt work on my dvd player >< but its okay i took it off jesse's HD. XD i'll watch it eventually when i have time)

^_^ this show looks awesome! i wanna watch it now Very Happy
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Re: Round 15 - Supernatural Mafia - Lucifer Rising (Mafia Wins)

Post by Idlefingers on Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:36 pm

i would most likely go out on a date with gc-x because i am like a man in a position of power Razz

okay, so i know a bit about Supernatural, only what ive watched on late night fridays, i dont think thats season 4 though Hmm so i shall do some reading up on wiki and stuff i think Smile
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Re: Round 15 - Supernatural Mafia - Lucifer Rising (Mafia Wins)

Post by Pongo Bear on Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:41 pm

speaking of giving back stuff, i would most likely go out on a date with nox_noctis because i have her camera card.... who wants to see embarassing photos?!?

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Re: Round 15 - Supernatural Mafia - Lucifer Rising (Mafia Wins)

Post by Lenalesca on Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:40 pm

i would most likely go out on a date with Skeam because i think that his (poor *nah just kiddin) marketing skills will be helpful to me (for plans of world domination) and that it'll be harder for him to wiggle out of forgetting birthday gifts XD

Well this round was started promptly...and that video made me lawl, godspeed.
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Post by Stebung on Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:52 pm

I would most likely to go out on a date with..................oh......wait a min.........Lenalesca it is then....... because all the other guys are fast and sneaky like that.

Question to the mod. Does not knowing the show much affect the game play much? Because as the rule says subtle hints can be dropped but if you know nothing about the show it won't be picked up anyways. I'm reading wiki for this show now so I hope I can get something out of it.

To my knowledge people who knows the show inside out are TIG, NOX, PYRO, MINT-TEA(maybe?) and LENALESCA(maybe?) right? Is there any BASIC information we need to know about this show? Like plot lines and main characters?(So i don't have to read this massive page of wiki?)

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Post by Lenalesca on Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:56 pm

Oh you're so getting lynched for that entry sentence man, i only saw 1st season n i think this one is based on season 4? so just read that. or ask pyro/TIG/Nox. I only saw 1 episode of season 4 lol & I'm happy that i know at least SOMETHING about it.
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Re: Round 15 - Supernatural Mafia - Lucifer Rising (Mafia Wins)

Post by That Indian Guy on Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:59 pm

Well since she said it was basically based around Season 4 (as the title signifies as well) This wiki link should probably be basic reading for everyone, as it provides a brief rundown on the season and all the characters involved in it. (Note, just skip down to the Cast section if you dont want to be spoiled by the plot points of each of the episodes)

I am guessing most of the characters listed in the "cast" section will be involved in the game in some form. (They have hyperlinks to their character pages)

Would like to hear some thoughts on what people think the set up break down of this game might be? (Town/Mafia/Cult/Serial Killer/Jester/Survivor etc)

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Post by mint.tea on Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:08 pm

I would most likely go out on a date with That Indian Guy, because then we can spend most of the day at the skill crane machines, attempting to get a soft toy (or drink - according to my dreams). LOL.

And no, I've never really seen Supernatural. Only that one episode on that night last year, which I can't remember. I think it was SPN night?
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Re: Round 15 - Supernatural Mafia - Lucifer Rising (Mafia Wins)

Post by Nox Noctis on Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:23 pm

i would go out with steven because, he is quite astute at picking up on sarcasm, not only that but hes a really good dancer according to DDR machine. What more could a girl want! lol

Ooooh SPN ooooooh sam winchester XD. I wouldnt put it pass sandy to have Dean fans vs Sam fan lol

Well ur usual characters would be Sam Winchester, Dean Winchester Bobby and Chuck the prophet pro town. Your usual baddies would probably be Meg (since she keeps re-appearing), Lilith and that demon that was harrassing Dean in Hell?

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Post by Lenalesca on Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:32 pm

Since it's 4th season, i thought the demons/baddies wud include Ruby & Azazel? god i tried reading that link TIG provided, not working. And i spoiled myself quite a bit lol the jester, it's a VERY long shot here but Lilth? didn't she kinda had to die to break the seal for Lucifer to get out? I'm jus throwing out ideas man. I know jack sht about the show. Town would be the winchester bros, and maybe a couple angels? According to that episode i saw on halo night they werent that friendly lol
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Post by sKeam on Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:35 pm

Stebung wrote:Is there any BASIC information we need to know about this show? Like plot lines and main characters?(So i don't have to read this massive page of wiki?)

lol even i can answer that for you.....Its a show about hot guys and demons who all convert and kill each other and shit, while travelling around the country.... amirite?

I'm gonna have a better read of the wiki later when i have time.But judging from the thread title im gonna assume "Lucifer" is a mafia character and i dunno if that Yellow Eyed Demon character is still around ,i dont like going on about themes i dunno about, so someone else can tell me.

What does everyone think the set up is like?? (2 mafia,3mafia,2 groups,SK,Jester etc...? and what the chances of a jester again?? lmao.

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Post by mint.tea on Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:38 pm

Well obviously there is going to be:
Dean Winchester
Sam Winchester

And then, maybe:
Bobby Singer
Castiel
Pamela
Zachariah
Anna

Town possibilities

Ruby
Uriel
Lilith
Azazel
Alastair

Mafia possibilities

LOL, well some aren't possibilities, because of their angel/demon character in the show.
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Post by mint.tea on Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:40 pm

...I'm just randomly listing what I read for Season 4. So correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by That Indian Guy on Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:43 pm

Id remove Azazel from the list, because he
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died at the end of season 2
and was only in flashbacks during season 4.

Copy paste this link if the other one didnt work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernatural_season_4#Cast

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Post by Stebung on Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:45 pm

That Indian Guy wrote:Would like to hear some thoughts on what people think the set up break down of this game might be? (Town/Mafia/Cult/Serial Killer/Jester/Survivor etc)

Not that I understood much of the story in the link but thanks anyways lol

These are all the names mentioned in the link......

Dean Winchester - main character
Sam Winchester - main character
John Winchester - sam and dean's father
Mary Winchester - sam and dean's mother
Meg masters demon (wtf)
Ruby - Demon that sides with sam
Bobby Singer - mentor of the main characters
Lilith - Demon
Azazel - Demon
Victor Henricksen - FBI agent
Ronald Reznick - random?!? can't even find a page for him. Maybe minor char


And these new people who are specific to season 4 I guess would be there as well:

Castiel - angel
Uriel - angel
Anna - fallen angel who can hear voices
Alastair - torturer of souls in hell
Zachariah - castiel's superior so i guess angel too?
Pamela - some psychic that works with bobby
This is obviously more than 12 people so I guess some characters in this season do not play a major role.....

Before I can actually answer your question do you think you can sort out all the minor roles that might not be in this game?

From what I have now I can tell this game has lots of separate sides rather than a simple goody townies vs baddy mafia game. Human, angels, demons are the three sides from what I can see and none of them has a majority(well human does kinda). It seems like a last side left will win game to me.

PS: omfg I'm slow.......... like 5 people posted b4 me

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Post by Stebung on Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:51 pm

sKeam wrote:What does everyone think the set up is like?? (2 mafia,3mafia,2 groups,SK,Jester etc...? and what the chances of a jester again?? lmao.

Refer to the post I made to TIG. I can see that there's human, angels and demons and they all seem to have their own sides. I haven't seen the show so I dunno if angels work with human and they fight against demons.

So it's either
human vs angels vs demons
or
human + angels vs demons

can't really say how many people each side have. Cos in the link there's obviously a lotta minor characters.

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Post by mint.tea on Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:54 pm

So if no Azazel, maybe Lucifer? Although, isn't he a really recent character in the show?
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Post by Nox Noctis on Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:57 pm

i was about to say, Azazel was Yellow eye demon wasnt he? He conked out ages ago XD

steven's list is kinda funny, dad and mum is deceased.. Victor isn't too important to be in the game and who the hell is Ronald Reznick?

But I second Meg, Ruby, Bobby, Lilith, Alistar Cas, Uri, Pam and Anna

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Post by mint.tea on Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:02 pm

Okay, make that Meg instead of Azazel.
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Post by Pongo Bear on Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:03 pm

wait so... the episode we watched at halo night.... that was season 4...? what episode? (like around the startish, middlish or endish?)




and also on a sidenote....vin.....
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just to prove to vin that making shifty eyes can so be done over the internet XD

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Post by Lenalesca on Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:04 pm

I also thought it might be that the demon/mafia side has to fulfill certain conditions to win? like how the demons r breaking seals to free lucifer? maybe lucifer's not directly included but if he was freed = town fail?/apocylapse (fudge i can no longer spell) I would actually think it's just town + angels vs demons because we don't exactly have too much of a large cast here, splitting 3 ways is kinda...I don't see third party happening too much either for some reason.

@mint.tea: Meg wud be ruby right? meg is her first host's name. host died some time ago...in season 1.
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Post by Stebung on Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:06 pm

Nox Noctis wrote:steven's list is kinda funny, dad and mum is deceased.. Victor isn't too important to be in the game and who the hell is Ronald Reznick?

lmfao I don't fucking know I just copy pasted all the names mentioned in TIG's link. So I guess some of them are so minor even hardcore fans don't know them? lolol

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Post by Nox Noctis on Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:07 pm

the episode you watched at halo night was the beginning of the 5th season. First episode to be precise Very Happy

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Post by mint.tea on Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:10 pm

@Lenalesca
Oh right. Obviously I don't like reading too much...
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Post by Pongo Bear on Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:13 pm

Nox Noctis wrote:the episode you watched at halo night was the beginning of the 5th season. First episode to be precise Very Happy
oh okay... so like.... then i would know like.... about the same as steven then? XD

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Post by Stebung on Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:19 pm

Pongo Bear wrote:
Nox Noctis wrote:the episode you watched at halo night was the beginning of the 5th season. First episode to be precise Very Happy
oh okay... so like.... then i would know like.... about the same as steven then? XD
Don't even bother reading the link TIG gave us. It just confuses you more...... but at least I got some names.

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Post by Pongo Bear on Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:22 pm

it refreshed my memory a bit then......


was that guy chris(?) the guy
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that was like... was going to be possessed by lucifer(?)
a character in season 4?

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Post by Nox Noctis on Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:24 pm

note:

Ruby and Meg are separate demons! Both have new hosts in season 4!

Well i suggest you to skim read like season four, and just focus on the main characters, like the boys, bobby etc (the ones ive seconded). This is coming from someone who has seen season four.

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Post by Lucyfer on Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:37 pm

=___= i thought the idea of no reveals means we don't have to figure out excatly which characters are in the game - this would probably be slowly revealed in the stories
i mean if this analysis can figure approximately the number of mafia - if there is more than 1 mafia family etc that would be helpful... but i feel otherwise this is getting nowhere
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Post by sKeam on Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:03 pm

Yeah true but.

It just gives us some structure to the the game to do this imo, so we have something to talk about and possibly get a bit of info.

Ill wait for Pyro to say something about the theme before i dismiss talking about it :S

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Post by Reznor on Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:04 pm

Stebung wrote:Question to the mod. Does not knowing the show much affect the game play much? Because as the rule says subtle hints can be dropped but if you know nothing about the show it won't be picked up anyways. I'm reading wiki for this show now so I hope I can get something out of it.
Learning at least a bit about the theme will help obviously, but is not required,for example you can still hint at the type of role you got etc

the point of it is for people to stop just role/power claiming and ruining the actual investigation and deception part of Mafia. everything i got for your PM's was from Wiki and Supernatural Wikia so the info is out there if you wish to research to get a better understanding of the theme.

That or you can start watching Supernatural Wink
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Post by Lenalesca on Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:13 pm

aaaaaagh, there's definitely more than 1 anti-towner but i think it's just a strict mafia vs town thing? There's so much demons in the show so I'm going with 2-3 town-killers. Dunno about third party, possible survivor or jester but i dunno about serial killer (Nox enlighten us on these new possibilities?) I cant be fuked reading thru all the wiki so I'm just going with gut instincts this round. Hope i don't fail lol If that ep on halo night was 1st ep of season 5, that means lucifer's proly not IN the game as a character? wasn't season 4 just building up to the finale when he/she got released? Oh u know what, i don't care, mafia will eventually slip up on something, then we don't have to worry whether it's ruby or meg or lucifer, just lynch.
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Post by Nox Noctis on Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:14 pm

oh gais (and also note to mod), Pyro has gone to the NZ fashion show tonight so you'll have to wait till tomoro for her posts.

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Post by Lenalesca on Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:16 pm

LOL is she getting a goody bag?
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Post by Stebung on Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:26 pm

Lucyfer wrote:=___= i thought the idea of no reveals means we don't have to figure out excatly which characters are in the game - this would probably be slowly revealed in the stories
i mean if this analysis can figure approximately the number of mafia - if there is more than 1 mafia family etc that would be helpful... but i feel otherwise this is getting nowhere

What Edwin said. It's not about who's in the game cos only mod knows that and we can only speculate. But it helps us to get an idea of the structure of the game. Like mafia, SK, cult etc. I'd rather at least have some idea of that before I go on lynching people. You can start lynching people right away if you don't feel this is necessary.

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Stebung wrote:Question to the mod. Does not knowing the show much affect the game play much? Because as the rule says subtle hints can be dropped but if you know nothing about the show it won't be picked up anyways. I'm reading wiki for this show now so I hope I can get something out of it.
Learning at least a bit about the theme will help obviously, but is not required,for example you can still hint at the type of role you got etc

the point of it is for people to stop just role/power claiming and ruining the actual investigation and deception part of Mafia. everything i got for your PM's was from Wiki and Supernatural Wikia so the info is out there if you wish to research to get a better understanding of the theme.

That or you can start watching Supernatural Wink
Thank you! Understood.

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Post by Stebung on Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:26 pm

Nox Noctis wrote:oh gais (and also note to mod), Pyro has gone to the NZ fashion show tonight so you'll have to wait till tomoro for her posts.

But she just signed on msn wtf

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Post by creature124 on Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:35 pm

I do agree that speculating as to the characters in the game is constructive - we have to have a framework to work with, or we are going to get nowhere.

Lenalesca, isn't 3 townside killers a little too much? I would be willing to entertain the notion of 2, but 3...if all 3 got unlucky, the town could lose in Night Two. That seems a little far-fetched to me. Rather than having more night kills, I would think less mafia. Its a cleaner solution, at least.
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Post by pyro+salt on Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:19 pm

I would most likely go out on a date with Creature124 because i would then be able to convert him to the Church of Winchester under the teachings of our Prophet Chuck

ok, i'm gonna make a longer post 2moro cuz I really need some sleep but please stop debating about MEG she hasn't even been on show for atleast a good 2 seasons *cough* and some ppl claim they have been watching the show up to season 4*cough*

P.S whats wrong with Pyro+salts fav character? XD


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Post by That Indian Guy on Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:12 pm

Okay let the wall of text begin XD

First things first, will help out with Stebungs list of characters (Bolded means likely to be in the game):

Dean Winchester - Main Character - Definitely in game, Hero of she show
Sam Winchester - Main Character - Definitely in game, i expect to possibly be mafia with Ruby
John Winchester - Only appeared in a flashback, wouldnt be in the game
Mary Winchester - Only appeared in a flashback, wouldnt be in the game
Meg Masters - Only appeared in a flashback, wouldnt be in the game
Ruby - One of the main villain roles, probably linked with Sam
Bobby Singer - Main Character and all around awesome guy (built his own panic room over a weekend XD)
Lilith - Demon, Main character, was after Sams head throughout the season, likely candidate for Serial Killer
Azazel - Demon, Died in Season 2, only appeared in a few flashback. Not in the game i would guess
Victor Henricksen - FBI agent - Only appeared in a flashback, wouldnt be in the game
Ronald Reznick - He is known as the Mandroid guy XD Only appeared in a flashback, wouldnt be in the game
Castiel - Angel - Basically becomes the 4th main character during the series. Reznors favorite character, bound to be in the game XD
Uriel - Angel, though he did go a bit rogue and start killing Angels because he wanted Lucifer to rise and kill all the humans. Another possible Serial Killer.
Anna - Fallen Angel who can hear voices, regains her powers and helps the boys and Cas out quite a bit, likely to be in the game.
Alastair - Torturer in hell, got Dean to break while he was in Hell. He is very likely to be in the game and if so, would be teamed up with Lillith i am guessing.
Zachariah - Castiel's superior, "middle management angel" basically
Pamela - Psychic that knows Bobby. Lost her eyes after she saw the true form of an Angel

The one i cant believe that was missed was:
Chuck - Prophet of the lord, writes novels which follow the lives of the brothers unbeknown to him until he meets the boys.

So with that, i think Mint.Tea was closest to probably being right about her picks in the game.

So those 12 i think have a good case of being in the game, but depending on set up, these character are possibly to be in it as well:
Bi-Polar Giant Teddy Bear - Kept trying to kill itself, but couldnt succeed - Jester likely
Shapeshifter - From the monster movie episode - Survivor likely
Sam Hein - Halloween episode - Serial Killer likely

Thats the best i can remember off the top of my head at the moment.
Stebung wrote:Before I can actually answer your question do you think you can sort out all the minor roles that might not be in this game?
Sorted it out as best i could, based on likelihood of appearance.
Stebung wrote:Refer to the post I made to TIG. I can see that there's human, angels and demons and they all seem to have their own sides. I haven't seen the show so I dunno if angels work with human and they fight against demons.

So it's either
human vs angels vs demons
or
human + angels vs demons

can't really say how many people each side have. Cos in the link there's obviously a lotta minor characters.
Id have to guess that it has been Humans & Angels vs Demons, seeing as the title refers to "Lucifer Rising" so he hasnt risen yet. Since most of the Angels are trying to prevent it, i reckon that could be the most likely set up.
Nox Noctis wrote:But I second Meg, Ruby, Bobby, Lilith, Alistar Cas, Uri, Pam and Anna
You should know better than that, as a SPN fan, she was in Hell basically the whole season Razz
Pongo Bear wrote:and also on a sidenote....vin.....
Spoiler:
just to prove to vin that making shifty eyes can so be done over the internet XD
OMG XD I would lynch you for having shifty eyes if that wasnt so utterly awesome yaa
Lenalesca wrote:@mint.tea: Meg wud be ruby right? meg is her first host's name. host died some time ago...in season 1.
Meg and Ruby are two different demons, as shown by them having two different names Razz
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Pongo Bear wrote:
Nox Noctis wrote:the episode you watched at halo night was the beginning of the 5th season. First episode to be precise Very Happy
oh okay... so like.... then i would know like.... about the same as steven then? XD
Don't even bother reading the link TIG gave us. It just confuses you more...... but at least I got some names.
This i find very curious indeed Question Especially since a lot of it actually says in the link
Also returning to the show for brief appearances are: FBI agent Victor Henricksen, Ronald Reznick, John Winchester, Mary Winchester, and demons Lilith and Azazel.
It says they are basically minor characters in the paragraph, so you didnt need any of us to tell you that. Only thing off on that list would be Lilith, as she was the final seal to release Lucifer (who Sam had to kill) and is trying to get Lucifer to rise (if you read her hyperlinked page)
Pongo Bear wrote:it refreshed my memory a bit then......

was that guy chris(?) the guy
Spoiler:
that was like... was going to be possessed by lucifer(?)
a character in season 4?
His name was Nick i believe and he was Lucifers vessel, but seeing as Lucifer is probably not an actual player in the game (and that happened in S5) i doubt Nick is in the game.
Lucyfer wrote:=___= i thought the idea of no reveals means we don't have to figure out excatly which characters are in the game - this would probably be slowly revealed in the stories
i mean if this analysis can figure approximately the number of mafia - if there is more than 1 mafia family etc that would be helpful... but i feel otherwise this is getting nowhere
As a few others have said, it helps us get an understanding of the basic set up, so we know what kind of threat to be looking at from the Mafia/Serial Killers etc. Its also helpful to start off inital discussion about the game.
creature124 wrote:Lenalesca, isn't 3 townside killers a little too much? I would be willing to entertain the notion of 2, but 3...if all 3 got unlucky, the town could lose in Night Two. That seems a little far-fetched to me. Rather than having more night kills, I would think less mafia. Its a cleaner solution, at least.
Im thinking she probably meant members of the mafia rather then them each individually having a kill. So like 3 people in a mafia team etc. That was just my interpretation of her fob sentence though Razz
pyro+salt wrote:ok, i'm gonna make a longer post 2moro cuz I really need some sleep but please stop debating about MEG she hasn't even been on show for atleast a good 2 seasons *cough* and some ppl claim they have been watching the show up to season 4*cough*

P.S whats wrong with Pyro+salts fav character? XD
So what did you get me from the fashion show huh? Wink Look forward to hearing your input about the game soon Smile

Okay, not i have given you guys some basis on characters likely to be in the game, so i put forth the same question again: Would like to hear some thoughts on what people think the set up break down of this game might be? (Town/Mafia/Cult/Serial Killer/Jester/Survivor etc)

Oh and just a heads up, because of what i pointed out in orange in particular, Stebung has jumped up to #1 candidate for sinister intentions on my list at the moment... Suspect

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Post by Idlefingers on Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:26 pm

That Indian Guy wrote:Would like to hear some thoughts on what people think the set up break down of this game might be? (Town/Mafia/Cult/Serial Killer/Jester/Survivor etc)
well looking at the list you gave us, id say something like 9 town/3 mafia or 8 town/3 mafia/1 third party.

the bipolar giant teddy bear? Laughing that sounds hilarious
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Post by Stebung on Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:25 pm

@TIG: Dude WTF MAN I DID say that some of them are minor characters if you look back. I said

"This is obviously more than 12 people so I guess some characters in this season do not play a major role.....

Before I can actually answer your question do you think you can sort out all the minor roles that might not be in this game?"

Of course I can sort out the list myself but it is better to be done by a person who actually have seen the show right? How am I supposed to know if "briefly" means one flashback or one whole episode if I haven't seen it at all? Maybe I should have asked Nox or Pyro, they are much nicer. <_< My only intention was trying to sort out some names as the story doesn't make sense to me.....and I see that you have done so...so thank you shortening the list for us all. To answer your question. Purely based on what you gave us.....I think the setup might be.....

townies
Dean Winchester
Bobby Singer
Castiel
Anna
Zachariah
Pamela

mafia
Sam Winchester
Ruby

3rd party or another mafia
Lilith
Alastair

Uriel > SK
Chuck <<< huh? This person was not mentioned in the link but from your description he sounds good? Possible survivor or jester if not chuck.

6 townie 2 mafias of 2 each, a SK, a jester/survivor setup

OR


townies
Sam Winchester
Dean Winchester
Bobby Singer
Castiel
Anna
Zachariah
Pamela

mafia
Lilith
Alastair
Ruby

Serial killer
Uriel

jester/surivor
Chuck or whoever

7 townies, 1 mafia of 3, 1 sk and 1 survivor/jester

I'm confused about Sam and Ruby. You said one is a main character one is a demon but they are linked some how. That's why i dunno if i should put them as separate groups or same group. But everyone else I think I'm sure. Except chuck. Cos he was not mentioned in the season 4 link. So I think that extra person is jester or survivor if not a town role.

And from these numbers.....it's almost a 1/2 chance of getting a mafia or sk lmao.

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Post by That Indian Guy on Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:42 pm

Stebung wrote:@TIG: Dude WTF MAN I DID say that some of them are minor characters if you look back. I said

"This is obviously more than 12 people so I guess some characters in this season do not play a major role.....

Before I can actually answer your question do you think you can sort out all the minor roles that might not be in this game?"
I didnt say you didnt acknowledge that some of your list was minor characters, im saying i think its odd, someone who as smart as you would need to be told what the meaning of brief was in a sentence. You could have used simple deductive reasoning based on what that sentence said to figure it out on your own.

Its odd in the sense that it looks like your trying to be helpful for asking for information under the guise of ignorance, when it is something anyone who read what you did could have figured out. Which carries onto what i found most odd was that you said that people didnt need to read the link, as the information was confusing, seeing as you got quite a lot of information from there about possible characters in the this round. Strange that you wouldnt want the others to become informed as much as possible...

So to sum up, the list wasnt what i found odd as much as what the motive behind it seems to be.(especially for someone who last round couldnt care less about the theme basically or to be honest, ever puts much care into the theme, you seem to play more based on the actual players from what i have observed)
Stebung wrote:Of course I can sort out the list myself but it is better to be done by a person who actually have seen the show right? How am I supposed to know if "briefly" means one flashback or one whole episode if I haven't seen it at all?
As far as i know, briefly means the same thing regardless. As for your point about not knowing if a character appeared in one episode or one flashback, i guess you wouldnt. But then you wouldnt really need to as that kind of reasoning seems inane to begin with.

For example, take a Xmen Mafia. Nox (as Mystique) had suggested that Jubilee may have been a character in the game, when she barely makes a brief appearance throughout the 3 movies. A character that obscure or unknown is very unlikely to be in the game that also would be safe from conflicting claims as you would get from a more prominent character.

Basically, minor characters, regardless of how brief their appearances in a series or movie are usually ignored, unless there are other extenuating circumstances. So if you had just mentioned the major characters and left out the minor characters, waiting for the input from Pyro, Nox or myself, that would have been one thing, but to list every character given on a page seems almost like your trying to widen the search criteria enough to have adequate coverage for yourself. But that may just be my observation, and i have known to be wrong on occasion.
Stebung wrote:Maybe I should have asked Nox or Pyro, they are much nicer. <_<
Clue me into as to what part of my post wasnt civil or nice towards you that you happened to dislike? :huh:
Stebung wrote:My only intention was trying to sort out some names as the story doesn't make sense to me.....and I see that you have done so...so thank you shortening the list for us all.
So as you can see, when i responded to your post, i didnt make an attack towards you at all, in fact i complied with your request and helped you out on a seemingly menial task. So why you flustered like that amuses me i must say :ROFLMAO:
Stebung wrote:I'm confused about Sam and Ruby. You said one is a main character one is a demon but they are linked some how. That's why i dunno if i should put them as separate groups or same group.
During the course of season 4, Sam was secretly working behind Dean's back in order to complete his vendetta for revenge against Lilith. In order to do this, he tapped into more of his demonic powers and started drinking demon blood. He even drained the blood from a nurse (who was possesses) but at the time he cut into her was not under the demons influence (so the human experienced everything) in order to get a large enough fix to keep his demonic mojo running. That and he was the one who ultimately was the one who broke the final seal to release Lucifer. So thats why he is a possibly a bad guy even though he is one of the main characters.

As for why he would be linked to Ruby, thats simple, she was the one training and grooming Sam in order to tap into his demonic powers in order to do the task that needed to be done to release Lucifer (kill Lillith)

Want to know what i find most intriguing, the exercise was a simple one enough on my part, prod some player, preferably one that would respond well enough to get a read on, to see what side they belong to. Quite interesting how quickly you became defensive, when all i did was voice my suspicion on you. Not even cast a vote. At least when you are innocent, you didnt react defensively until it looked like you were in danger serious danger of being lynched. Now you seem to flinch at the mere mention of it...

But i am not accusing you of being Mafia or something at the moment, so you dont have to be so concerned Razz thats all i got for you for now, was just gauging your reaction and letting the others see yours as well Smile Im just here trying the town to help gather as much information as they can during the day phase to make as an informed lynch as possible Very Happy

I did say i was going to try and take a bit of a back step so everyone else can have a bigger contribution and voice their opinions more, so i will do just that for now. Still happy to respond to your counter argument you may respond with if you wish to continue this little exercise or any questions the other players had about the theme or characters in the show etc. Smile

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Post by Stebung on Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:52 am

Holy shit with where this is going should I just lynch myself again then? Ok you asked for it I'm gonna try to explain this again.

That Indian Guy wrote:
Stebung wrote:@TIG: Dude WTF MAN I DID say that some of them are minor characters if you look back. I said

"This is obviously more than 12 people so I guess some characters in this season do not play a major role.....

Before I can actually answer your question do you think you can sort out all the minor roles that might not be in this game?"
I didnt say you didnt acknowledge that some of your list was minor characters, im saying i think its odd, someone who as smart as you would need to be told what the meaning of brief was in a sentence. You could have used simple deductive reasoning based on what that sentence said to figure it out on your own.

Its odd in the sense that it looks like your trying to be helpful for asking for information under the guise of ignorance, when it is something anyone who read what you did could have figured out. Which carries onto what i found most odd was that you said that people didnt need to read the link, as the information was confusing, seeing as you got quite a lot of information from there about possible characters in the this round. Strange that you wouldnt want the others to become informed as much as possible...

So to sum up, the list wasnt what i found odd as much as what the motive behind it seems to be.(especially for someone who last round couldnt care less about the theme basically or to be honest, ever puts much care into the theme, you seem to play more based on the actual players from what i have observed)

1. I will say it again. I have not seen the show. I CAN sort out the list myself. I'm just asking for your help as your sorting would be more accurate. "Brief" and "Minor" are two different words. Hannibal Lecter appeared for the "brief" 15 minutes in "silence of the lamb" but would you call him "minor"?

Basically, minor characters, regardless of how brief their appearances in a series or movie are usually ignored, unless there are other extenuating circumstances. So if you had just mentioned the major characters and left out the minor characters, waiting for the input from Pyro, Nox or myself, that would have been one thing, but to list every character given on a page seems almost like your trying to widen the search criteria enough to have adequate coverage for yourself. But that may just be my observation, and i have known to be wrong on occasion.
You are wrong this time mate.

2. Asking for information under the guise of ignorance? Or a person who is completely new to the show trying to get somewhere with the characters. What ever you phrase it as. I'm not the only person who doesn't know the show there is no reason for you to pin it on me. At least I'm trying to understand the show as opposed to the people who aren't being vocal.

3. People can read the link if they wanted to it's not up to me to tell them to read it or not. I told Shi and shi only to not read it as the plot line was confusing. If you think "Shi" somehow is "everyone" then what ever. I guess that's just you. And can I say that you are trying to confuse people by actually sending out that link? Because to people who haven't watched the show. A link about season 4 will NOT make sense.

4. Not true about the theme. If you look back I've always tried to play the game according to theme. As it is helpful in figuring out power roles and sides. It was ONLY the last round when it was cult mafia that I didn't care much for the theme. AS THE RULES WHICH ARE WRITTEN BY YOURSELF states. The characters has nothing to do with alignments in the game. So theme was useless in the last round and I think not just me was disregarding it? More like everyone in the whole game? And if you look around other players. Lucyfer is the one actually doesn't care about the theme at this stage so far. I find it odd that you are pinning something like this against me when there's another player doing what you are saying.

5. You didn't make an attack on me? What the fk are these walls of texts with my quotes everywhere and every second word I say turns out to be suspicious? And About Nox and Pyro being nicer. Because they are. It has nothing to do with your posts being rude or anything.

I hope I cleared it up now. If you want more walls of text I can oblige you because you have nothing on me and I have nothing to hide we can do this all day and you still won't get anywhere. And you are just making yourself looking more suspicious trying to make me look suspicous. How can a person with no previous knowledge to the show be of threat to the town? In my opinion it seems you, nox and pyro are the ones with most threat as you three know the theme inside out and have a much clearer idea of the setup of the game and therefore controlling the people who doesn't know the show much and confusing them with characters and plot lines that are alien to us all. Nox had already confused me with the whole Meg thing if you guys didn't clear that up. Basically it's now up to this. We can keep up with the walls of text with the whole town watching us. Or we can stop and wait for more input from other players. Either way it doesn't matter to me. Oh and either vote for me if you find me suspicious or don't vote for me if you don't find me suspicious. Strongly hinting others that I'm suspicious does not voice your own opinion. It's as if you are using others.

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Post by mint.tea on Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:35 am

Okay, are we all good now? Deep breaths in and out.
As 'fun' as it was to read your walls of text, how close are we at beginning to get anywhere?
It only lets us know that you two are in a world of your own.
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Re: Round 15 - Supernatural Mafia - Lucifer Rising (Mafia Wins)

Post by That Indian Guy on Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:55 am

Stebung wrote:1. I will say it again. I have not seen the show. I CAN sort out the list myself. I'm just asking for your help as your sorting would be more accurate. "Brief" and "Minor" are two different words. Hannibal Lecter appeared for the "brief" 15 minutes in "silence of the lamb" but would you call him "minor"?
This i acknowledged in the sense with the Lilith case. But like i said, if you had followed the links of the character names and read their backgrounds, you could have eliminated those on your own, or at least those with so little about them that they dont even have a wiki page (Victor/Ronald) because i mean, you surprisingly left out Sera Seige, who was minor enough for you to leave out on your list.

Ill give you Chuck, since that wiki page didn’t list him for some reason which i found weird myself.
Stebung wrote:2. Asking for information under the guise of ignorance? Or a person who is completely new to the show trying to get somewhere with the characters. What ever you phrase it as. I'm not the only person who doesn't know the show there is no reason for you to pin it on me. At least I'm trying to understand the show as opposed to the people who aren't being vocal.
Different motives behind the way a person tries to gather information means different things in a game. But okay, ill leave this point for now.
Stebung wrote:3. People can read the link if they wanted to it's not up to me to tell them to read it or not. I told Shi and shi only to not read it as the plot line was confusing. If you think "Shi" somehow is "everyone" then what ever. I guess that's just you. And can I say that you are trying to confuse people by actually sending out that link? Because to people who haven't watched the show. A link about season 4 will NOT make sense.
The intent was clear to all though, seeing as everyone can read the post. You read it and basically told Shi that it was useless to read (even though you yourself got plenty of information from it) so other players are liable to follow along with that, even if your “intention” was aimed solely at Shi alone.

Also, im confusing people by giving them the information source they were requesting? :huh:
Stebung wrote:4. Not true about the theme. If you look back I've always tried to play the game according to theme. As it is helpful in figuring out power roles and sides. It was ONLY the last round when it was cult mafia that I didn't care much for the theme. AS THE RULES WHICH ARE WRITTEN BY YOURSELF states. The characters has nothing to do with alignments in the game. So theme was useless in the last round and I think not just me was disregarding it? More like everyone in the whole game? And if you look around other players. Lucyfer is the one actually doesn't care about the theme at this stage so far. I find it odd that you are pinning something like this against me when there's another player doing what you are saying.
Fair enough, you may look into theme to some extent, but you haven’t used it as source of providing lynch criteria on a person during the early stages of the game as far as i recall. You have generally used some kind of suspicious act of the player themselves to go for a lynch.

Lucyfer not caring about the theme is a constant in all games though, she suggests something along these lines in almost every game Hmm Does this mean i think she is innocent? No, but then i have only prodded you so far in the game.
Stebung wrote:5. You didn't make an attack on me? What the fk are these walls of texts with my quotes everywhere and every second word I say turns out to be suspicious? And About Nox and Pyro being nicer. Because they are. It has nothing to do with your posts being rude or anything.
Was i watching a different game last round when “the niceness” of Nox caused you to lynch yourself? Laughing

Walls of texts aren’t attacks on you. I dont see why you would think that. Walls of texts is just how i post in Mafia games, regardless. Hell its even how i text in real life with 2-3 page long texts XD it wasn’t an attack on you.

As for my suspicion, yes i find you suspicious, though at this stage of the game, i would expect everyone to find everyone suspicious. You only jumped to the top of my list because i have only looked into you so far. There were only 2 possible ways you could have moved on my list at that point. Up if you proved to be overly defensive in nature (just to a voiced suspicion, no actual “threat” of lynch was ever in place) or you would have moved to the bottom if i thought you were innocent.
Stebung wrote: And you are just making yourself looking more suspicious trying to make me look suspicous.
Perhaps, but people tend to think im suspicious regardless of what i do in the game (i.e. my investigation in the X-Men round) so i figure if people are going to do that, i may as well try and get some reactions out of people as a result to see how they react.
Stebung wrote:How can a person with no previous knowledge to the show be of threat to the town? In my opinion it seems you, nox and pyro are the ones with most threat as you three know the theme inside out and have a much clearer idea of the setup of the game and therefore controlling the people who doesn't know the show much and confusing them with characters and plot lines that are alien to us all. Nox had already confused me with the whole Meg thing if you guys didn't clear that up.
I would think the simple and most obvious answer to your question is, that the person can know nothing but be a threat to the town if they were mafia/sk Razz not knowing the theme doesn’t help or hurt out with that in anyway, you cant manipulate matters when you dont need to.

As for you pointing suspicious at Pyro, Nox and I because we know the theme, well that should be a red flag to anyone i would think. Knowing the theme in no way links us to being mafia (not saying the others arent, but you get what i mean right?). But knowing the theme is an asset towards the town as a whole with the information we can provide. Now if we dont provide information, when we know it well enough would be a suspicious move. For example (and creature could back me up on this) during Kagerouhi's mafia on SZS board, the people who were targeted for killings first were the people who knew the theme the best and the better players. Once all the players who knew the theme were killed, the rest of the town were left so aimless and would miss obvious clues in the story or about a character because they didnt know the theme.

Stebung wrote:Oh and either vote for me if you find me suspicious or don't vote for me if you don't find me suspicious. Strongly hinting others that I'm suspicious does not voice your own opinion. It's as if you are using others.
:huh: I dont need to be told how to play the game man, i know how it works with lynching and making plans to root out mafia. If i found you suspicious enough i would have voted for you. But as you can see, i haven’t done so now have i Razz

mint.tea wrote:Okay, are we all good now? Deep breaths in and out.
As 'fun' as it was to read your walls of text, how close are we at beginning to get anywhere?
It only lets us know that you two are in a world of your own.
:ROFLMAO: Kind of true i guess. I have my reasons for doing what i did, but obviously it be idiotic to reveal everything now, so people may just have to bear with me for now.

The basic jist of my post is: I think you are suspicious stebung, but im not sure for which side if that makes sense. It could be because you are mafia trying to sow seeds of disinformation into the town or it could be something like you are town player with certain restrictions.

Like for example, the Pamela Barnes character (who was a psychic on the show) she lost her eyes when she looked at the true form of an angel. Now if she has a similar set up in character, i would personally think it would be a bad idea for her to use her powers on the "angels" if she has a similar reaction (loss of investigation powers). So it could be that you are trying to gather information in that regard as well, but it seems like a weird way to do it to me is all.

Ill be quiet for now, lets start hearing from the others about what we should do Smile In particular id like to hear more from sKeam, Pyro, Nox, Creature and Lenalesca as to what we should do Smile

Though to be honest, if skeam or stebung are mafia, i dont think id last past day 2 in this game XD

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